Kevin Spratt and his partner Tayunna Schatkowski appear at the Corruption and Crime Commission hearing. 

"Litany of Lies" presented to the media by WA Police Commissioner Mr O'Callaghan
Mr Quigley argued a flow chart Mr O'Callaghan presented to the media at a press conference in October last year, after the Tasering off Mr Spratt came to light, was a "litany of lies"… Mr John Robert Quigley who was appointed Attorney General for Western Australia in March, 2017, argued  vv
 Western Australian Court of Appeal quashes Spratt conviction - Aja Styles - FEBRUARY 24 2011

John Robert Quigley (born 1 December 1948) is an Australian barrister, solicitor and politician in Western Australia. A member of the ALP, he has served as a member of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly from the 2001 election until the present, initially as the Member for Innaloo (2001–2005) until that seat's abolition in an electoral redistribution, then as the Member for Mindarie. As of March 2017, he is the state's Attorney-General in the McGowan Ministry.

Missing and murdered girls in and around Perth and Western Australia from the 1970’s to around 2003.
http://awn.bz/CSK_websleuths_2.html


17th April, 1974 the disappearance and suspected murder of Raelene Eaton and Yvonne Waters   last seen in Scarbourgh Beach, Western Australia.

Shirley Finn 1975 - The 19th Hole


Orelia resident Felicia Wilson’s battered, mutilated body was found behind a shopping centre at Kwinana on January 10, 1979.

June 1980. PAULINE WALTER, 22
Pauline Walter was last seen at a Perth backpacker hostel in June 1980.
Her headless body was found in a Forrestdale ditch six years later.

October 30, 1980- LISA MOTT, 12
Lisa Mott vanished on October 30, 1980. She was last seen getting into a panel van on Forrest St, Collie, after a basketball game. Her body has never been found.

February 19, 1983-SHARON MASON, 14

Perth schoolgirl Sharon Mason vanished on February 19, 1983


June 26, 1986- BARBARA WESTERN, 38
Barbara was last seen drinking at a pub on the Albany Highway on June 26, 1986.
Her skeletal remains were eventually found in bush near Karragullen 
Cheryl Renwick (left) and Barbara Western (right) both vanished from Perth in 1986


1988- The disappearance and suspected murder of Julie Cutler in Perth, Claremont, Cottesloe area
30th June, 1991 the disappearance and suspected murder of Kerry Turner
Sara-Lee Davey was last seen alive on January 14, 1997


1997 - Ciara Glennon- Abducted Claremont, Found dead, cause of death unknown (Foreign articles suggest major knife wounds- maybe I’m wrong and only one victims was identified in the foreign media as having major knife wounds throughout the body,If So it would be Ciara only where we know the cause of death?)

Nov. 1998 - Lisa Brown, missing (sex worker, last seen on Palmerston St.)
Nov. 2000 - Sarah McMahon, missing (last seen in Claremont, knew Morey)
Apr. 2002 - Survivor (attacked on Palmerston St.)
Mar. 2003 -  Darylyn Meridith Ugle,, murdered (sex worker, body found near Mundaring Weir)
Dec. 2003 - Survivor (sex worker, escaped near Mundaring Weir)

Commodore Tested By Forensic Experts
The car belonged to accused killer Bradley Edwards in the late 90s when three young women disappeared.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/01/18/claremont-serial-killings-21-year-old-commodore-tested-by-foren_a_21655435/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANe0pdn4UoSNIMgNV1ya_9uq55gEzDhy_xiDPhzNMTdQ4xQhnqI5YS2Fh1TTVzdwzOeSRgDP8WZtAWnDGrRTl8Rj_47PvqWDCOfkr6lfjBR_5QeqZzeDvQusA7Mbqto0VIvtExl9QZ9ht6Kg7ASGUOgBMQHajCrB-7KtnNlhRygp
Perth forensics experts are testing a white Holden commodore station wagon that was recently seized from its current owner. It once belonged to Bradley Robert Edwards; the man accused of being the Claremont killer. The car has had three owners since it was used by Edwards.
The 21-year-old VS model belonged to Edwards at the time three young women went missing during 1996/97. It was taken away from its current owner -- who was flabbergasted when police turned up to seize his car -- on the same day Bradley was charged with the murder of two of the women.
The current owner was asked by police to provide DNA samples, so his genetic profile can be ruled out of any samples taken from the car. Perth police believe Edwards used the car when he was working as a Telstra technician.
Edwards has been charged with the murders of Jane Rimmer in 1996 and Ciara Glennon in 1997. Both girls disappeared from the affluent suburb of Claremont, in a case that has involved the biggest manhunt in Australian history, across two decades. Edwards has also been charged over two sexual assaults in Perth in 1988 and 1995.

Police have been trying for years to identify car upholstery fibres found on the remains of Rimmer, whose body was discovered in July 1996; leading to the understanding the killer was driving a VS Commodore made in the mid-1990s.
When Glennon vanished nine months later, she was seen leaning into the passenger window of a light-coloured station wagon.
Edwards is also charged with two sexual assaults that took place shortly before Glennon and Rimmer went missing.
Post Newspaper editor Bret Christian has been covering the case for decades. Christian was the first journalist to report the theory linking the Claremont killings to an horrific rape of a teenage girl in Karrakatta cemetery, the year before the murders.
"Post newspapers have had, over the years, new information come to us from members of the public; including a woman who was kidnapped and never reported it," Christian told The Huffington Post Australia. "Another woman was lured into a car in Claremont and never reported it. She had some interesting information that we passed onto the police.
"The problem has never been a lack of information as the public has been keen to see it solved. But, in a way, that's been a problem – the police have been so swamped with information, it takes a long time to sort through it all."
Claremont resident Jacky Moir told HuffPost Australia she reported to police, back in 1997, that a man in a white car had followed her as she walked home from the Claremont Hotel (where the missing girls had been socialising the night they disappeared).
"It freaked me out so much I went into somebody's front yard and hid in the bushes. I could see the man sitting in the car waiting to see if I reappeared. Thankfully, he gave up and eventually drove away," Moir said.
"I memorised the car's number plate and called the police. But I never heard from them -- or so I thought -- but about 10 years later the police called me. They told me the man who had followed me that night was a 'known nuisance' but not a suspect. So it goes to show that the cops really did sift through all the public information even if it took a decade to let me know."
Edwards made a brief court appearance last December and will face court again on January 25.


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Claremont serial killings: Forensics test car linked to accused killer http://trib.al/ClteRRS

12:30 AM - Jan 7, 201
Timeline
Sarah Spiers, 18, went missing from outside a Claremont bar in January 1996. Her body has never been found.
FAIFAX/SUPPLIEDSarah Spiers disappeared from Claremont in 1996 but her body has never been found.
Jane Rimmer, aged 23, was abducted from Claremont in June 1996 and her body found in bushland south of Perth that August. Edwards has been charged with her murder.
Ciara Glennon, aged 27, disappeared in March 1997. Her body was found in bushland north of Perth, 19 days after she was last seen in Claremont. Edwards has been charged with her murder.
FAIRFAX MEDIA: Ciara Glennon was just 27 when she disappeared.
FAIRFAX/SUPPLIED: Jane Rimmer

2.15pm on Oct 21, 2019
State wants to call expert on DNA found under Ms Glennon's fingernails

https://www.theage.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-serial-killer-trial-live-details-of-bradley-edwards-life-to-be-discussed-during-two-day-hearing-20191021-p532m2.html
Ms Barbagallo has foreshadowed, if the defence argues the DNA found underneath Ms Glennon's fingernails - allegedly Mr Edwards' - arrived there by passive contact, the state would like to introduce a new forensic witness to explain the difference between passive contact DNA and fingernail scrapings. 
She said Mr Edwards claimed in his police interview he wasn't in Claremont the night Ms Glennon was abducted, but that the state "has no idea" if he may say he was at trial, and therefore would like to be prepared with a new expert witness if he does.


2.44pm on Oct 21, 2019
Telstra-issued work trousers under spotlight as state gathers new witnesses
By Heather McNeill
There are a number of proposed new witnesses to speak to fibres relating to the blue Telstra-issued work trousers Edwards would have worn at the time of the alleged murders in 1996 and 1997. 
The defence is opposing one witness, who would give evidence on the "rarity" of the particular fabric and fibre of the trousers, from being heard at trial.
The directions hearing earlier heard detectives travelled to Melbourne recently to gather further evidence on the trouser fibres. 
The state is alleging common fibres found on the work trousers were also found on Ciara Glennon and Jane Rimmer's bodies. 


2.54pm on Oct 21, 2019
Defence says submission of late evidence may impact accused's right to a fair trial
Mr Edwards' lawyer, Paul Yovich is now arguing whether the submission of a number of new witness statements at this late stage in the legal process enabled his client a fair trial. 
"The accused must be informed of the relevant evidence against him to be prepared for trial," he said. 
Any evidence submitted after July 30, must be approved by trial judge, Justice Stephen Hall.
Most of the new prosecution witness statements have come about from pre-trial briefings of prosecution witnesses, which led to new lines of enquiry, or existing statements being expanded.
Mr Yovich said the additions to witness statements had altered the evidence, and that the defence would not be ready with its expert responses in relation to the fibre and DNA evidence until five weeks into the trial. 
The trial will call civilian witnesses first, followed by police officers, and then expert witnesses. 
Justice Hall has reserved his decision on what new witness statements will be allowed. 

3.21pm on Oct 21, 2019
Edwards admits he 'grabbed, bound and raped' teenager in Claremont in 1995

Mr Edwards has changed his plea during today's hearing, confessing to the abduction and rape of a 17-year-old girl at Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995. Here are the state's facts in relation to that charge, which were read aloud during an earlier hearing in February.
The state said Mr Edwards abducted a 17-year-old girl as she was walking to a friend's house after a night out at Club Bay View in Claremont in 1995.
He grabbed her from behind, bound her hands together, gagged her and put a hood over her head.
He then carried her into his car, took her to an isolated area of Karrakatta Cemetery and twice raped her.
He did not speak during the assault and the woman was left half naked in bushland.
A male's DNA sample, taken from the woman after the attack, was later found to match the accused's profile.

3.28pm on Oct 21, 2019
The Huntingdale sex attack Edwards committed as a 19-year-old
Mr Edwards' has also today confessed to a sex attack in Huntingdale in 1988. 
The state alleges the reopening of that cold case was the major breakthrough in charging Mr Edwards' with the Claremont murders, due to an alleged DNA link discovered in 2016. 
Here are the details of that offence, which the state read aloud in February during an earlier hearing. 
The state said in February 1988 Mr Edwards entered a Huntingdale home in the middle of the night and assaulted an 18-year-old woman.
Ms Barbagallo said Mr Edwards unplugged the family's home phone and entered the teenager's room.
He sat on her back and straddled her while trying to force fabric into her mouth.
The woman struggled and Mr Edwards ran from the scene, leaving behind a silk kimono.
The kimono was later tested in December 2016, and Mr Edwards DNA profile was detected.
The state said a number of 'prowling' incidents occurred in Huntingdale, within a one kilometre radius from Mr Edwards family home at the time.
The state alleges he had an obsession for women's underwear and night gowns.
He was aged 19 at the time

6.21pm on Oct 21, 2019
Defence wants psychology report into why Edwards attacked a woman in 1990 excluded from trial
Defence lawyer Paul Yovich wants a report written by a court-ordered psychologist in 1990 - after Edwards pleaded guilty to assaulting a woman at Hollywood Hospital - to be left out of his trial. 
The report found a spike in instability in his life contributed to the assault, which the state says is a trend in his later, more serious alleged offending. 
However Edwards claimed he was unsure of his motive for the attack. 
"[Mr Edwards] says to both authors [of the report], 'I don't know why I did it'," Mr Yovich said. 
"In exploring what might have been going on, a number of things are talked about; infidelity, frustration at work, a remark the victim made that he found upsetting."
He says the summary notes of Edwards' reasonings for committing the offence were not a reliable summary of what he actually said at the time, and that neither report author had any memory of their time with Edwards.
He said the offending was "unplanned, spontaneous and that capture was inevitable", which was in contrast to the nature of his other accused offending. 
"[The Hollywood Hospital report] cannot help your honour in the logical proof of the identity of the offender in the [Claremont murder charges]," he said. 


Justice Hall has reserved his decision as to whether the emotional upset evidence will be allowed at trial. 

The cross erected at the location where Jane Rimmer's body was found in Wellard in 1996.CREDIT:NINE NEWS PERTH

Claremont serial killer trial podcast: ‘The Missing Hours’PerthNow
November 29, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killer-trial-podcast-the-missing-hours-ng-b881397773z

​In what’s already been a week of bombshells, day five, despite being a shorter day, was no exception
Former friends of Bradley Edwards, a couple named Murray and Brigita Maria Cook took the stand.
Mr Cook told of his annoyance when Edwards never showed up to a pre-planned holiday in Dawesville, an hour south of Perth, on March 14 1997 - the night Ciara Glennon disappeared.
He said Edwards told him he was trying to reconcile with his wife, who told the court on an earlier day that he never tried to reconcile with her.
In an eerie admission, Mrs Cook said they had no TV and no radio, so they didn’t know Ciara Glennon was missing.
Join Natalie Bonjolo, Alison Fan and Tim Clarke (in the studio) as they discuss the days’ events, as Tim described them, a reverse-alibi.

Former Senior Constable Com Beyers submitted a general field report relating to the activities of a male person resulting from an unrelated 2002 operation into prostitution. 

The District Intelligence Officer assessing field reports for the policing area brought the field report to the attention of the Macro Task Force and it was immediately actioned for investigation. This was a common practice in respect to  filed reports submitted by patrol officers.


Claremont serial killings trial witness had 'strong instinct to get out' of Telstra car after being offered a lift
By Andrea Mayes  5th November 2019


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-04/bradley-edwards-sketch-opening-day/11767064


Who were the Claremont victims

Sarah Spiers. Jane Rimmer. Ciara Glennon. Three women whose names were etched into Perth's consciousness more than 20 years ago.
Bradley Robert Edwards is accused of murdering three women who went missing from Claremont in the 1990s.
ABC News: Anne Barnetson

A woman who accepted a lift from a man in a Telstra-branded car at the height of the Claremont serial killings has told the WA Supreme Court she made an excuse to exit the car after feeling a "strong instinct to get out"
Bradley Robert Edwards is on trial for the wilful murders of three women — Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon — who went missing from the Claremont entertainment district in 1996 and 1997.
Annabelle Bushell told the court she had been drinking with her friend Trilby Smith at the Ocean Beach Hotel in neighbouring Cottesloe in late 1996 and would have drunk between 15 to 20 middies of full-strength beer over a five- or six-hour session at the pub.
"We were just enjoying each other's company, playing pool," she said.
Ms Spiers and Ms Rimmer drank at the same hotel on the nights they disappeared in January and June 1996 respectively.
When Ms Bushell and her friends finally called it a night, they began to walk along Eric Street towards Stirling Highway when a station wagon with a Telstra logo — identified as either a Toyota Lexcen or Holden Commodore — slowed down and drove past them, before circling back and stopping to offer them a lift.
The women got into the car, but Ms Bushell said she began to feel uneasy as the car stopped at a red light on the corner of Bay View Terrace and Stirling Highway in Claremont.
"I just had a strong instinct to get out of the car," she said.
"I wasn't in a good spot."
She said the driver was "middle-aged", 30 to 40 years old, with neat dark-coloured hair, and appeared to be fairly tall because he filled up the seat.
However, there were discrepancies between her account of the incident and that of her friend Ms Smith, who gave evidence on Tuesday.
Ms Smith described the vehicle as a van, not a station wagon, and gave a detailed description of the rear section containing electrical tools.
She did not recall the vehicle having any Telstra signage on it.

Edwards promoted despite assault conviction
A number of documents were earlier submitted to the court by state prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo SC relating to Edwards's employment at phone utility Telecom (later rebranded Telstra), where he worked for 30 years until his arrest in December 2016.
Among them was a job application for a position within Telecom from June 1992 — two years after he admitting attacking a female social worker at Perth's Hollywood Hospital — in which Edwards referred to his work ethic and the advantages of having "a careful plan of attack".
The social worker attack took place while he was working for the utility repairing telephone systems at the hospital, in Perth's western suburbs.
Justice Stephen Hall said although the document, which came under the "personal attributes" section of the job application, showed Edwards was "well-organised', it was ultimately irrelevant and therefore inadmissible as evidence.
Edwards pleaded guilty to a charge of assault over the attack and was given two years' probation, but Telstra records presented to the court on Wednesday showed he continued to rise through the ranks at the telecommunications company despite his conviction, becoming a senior telecommunications technician grade 1 by June 1992.
Telstra payroll manager Tony Vomero gave evidence about documents taken from the Telstra archives detailing Edwards' positions, and payslips and internal job applications from selected periods throughout his employment.
But he was unable to say what Edwards' work schedule would have been in the 1990s, covering the period the three women went missing, because records were not kept for the time.

NYT  CSK Investigation Team’s Comment:
1. The witnesses in this article … Annabelle Bushell and her friend Trilby Smith, who had both been drinking together at the Ocean Beach Hotel in Cottesloe in late 1996 differ their memory of being offered a lift by a man:
(a) Annabelle Bushell  states that the man was driving a station wagon with a Telstra logo — identified as either a Toyota Lexcen or Holden Commodore and said the driver was "middle-aged", 30 to 40 years old, with neat dark-coloured hair, and appeared to be fairly tall because he filled up the seat.
(b) Ms Trilby Smith described the vehicle as a van, not a station wagon, and gave a detailed description of the rear section containing electrical tools, and she did not recall the vehicle having any Telstra signage on it.
It is noted that Bradley Robert Edwards is around 50 years old in December, 2019, and would have been around 27 years old in late 1996, and thus the description of the man that gave the two girls a lift does not fully match the age of Bradley Robert Edwards.
It is also questioned as to why these witnesses, and the other witness Katrina Jones, who  testified she was accosted by a man who said he worked for Telstra, after accepting a lift from him in his white work van a month before Ms Spiers vanished, were not asked to look at the accused while they were in court and say whether they thought that the accused, Bradley Robert Edwards, could have been the man that offered them a lift. However, here may be some technical legal reason this was not don
Katrina Jones stated that the man was driving a white van, and that he said he worked for Telstra, but did not say his van has a Telstra logo on it … she just stated that he said he worked for Telstra.
Katrina Jones admitted under cross examination that she had not mentioned him working for Telecom or Telstra in her original statement to police, merely that he worked in telecommunications.
Katrina Jones said in the court that the man was aged about 25-27 with short brown hair, but under cross-examination from defence counsel Paul Yovich SC, Ms Jones admitted she had originally told police he was about 21 with fair hair. 

There is an large difference between a man who has short brown hair with an age of about 25-27

to a man who has blond hair who is about 21 years of age.
One would expect that the earlier statement given to the police by Katrina Jones would have been closer to the truth that her evidence given is court many years later. One has to wonder whether the police and/or the prosecution had asked  Katrina Jones to change her description of the man who gave her a lift in his white van to suit the police and prosecution’s determination to have the description appear to seem lke tit could have been the accused,Bradley Robert Edwards.
There is a lot of pressure on the Western Australian Police, the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia and their head prosecutor Ms Barbagello and the Western Australian Government, who are spending over $100 million in prosecuting Bradley Robert Edwards, to convince Justice Hall to bring down guilty verdicts against the accused, Bradley Robert Edwards, for being the sole person responsible for the alleged abduction and murder of Sarah Speirs, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon.

The Toyota Camry Edwards was allocated by Telstra between October 26, 1994 and May 1, 1996. 

(Supplied: Supreme Court of WA)

A Telecom van similar to the one issued to Bradley Edwards in the 1990s. (Supplied: Supreme Court of WA)

I remain the same and totally deny that I was ever given any result of my information.

To be sure, I can only say that David Caporn was running the Macro Taskforce when I passed on the information in respect to the guy I intercepted in Highgate. The Macro Taskforce was staffed like any other Police Operation with staff seconded from other areas of the Police Force.

The prostitution Taskforce that I operated ran between July 2000 - August 2002.

Regards

​Con

Bradley Edwards sketch

“.… you've got a killing machine…He's either dead or he's in another jurisdiction….."
Perth lawyer Terry Dobson, once a detective who had worked on the Claremont cases, told Radio 6PR

"That's something that's always bothered me. If you look at the way the three murders were committed you've got a killing machine. You've got a superb killer. They don't just fall out of the sky. They develop. They learn their craft. [And they don't stop]. He's either dead or he's in another jurisdiction."


http://awn.bz/CSK_websleuths_2.html

 

On the relative lack of forensic evidence, he said it could be the case that the killer had gone beyond the stage of leaving evidence behind before his crimes escalated to murder.
"Often serial killers will start off with an interest in hurting animals, they like to light fires, they like to watch fires," he said.
"Usually there is some sort of deviant behaviour leading up to it before they get the attention of the police. It may be that whatever he did the relevant samples weren't taken prior to this. It could be that he's just left stuff at a crime scene as opposed to having it taken from him
by investigators or in the alternative, he's from another jurisdiction in Australia, or [even] from outside Australia.
"That's something that's always bothered me. If you look at the way the three murders were committed you've got a killing machine. You've got a superb killer. They don't just fall out of the sky. They develop. They learn their craft. [And they don't stop]. He's either dead or he's in another jurisdiction."
WA Police has issued a statement in response to the report. 

Who was responsible for the abduction of Ciara Glennon,Sarah Spiers and Jane Rimmer and many other Western
 Australian girls in the 50 odd years from the 1970's to the 2015
The Sunday Times reported “Lost in the Devil's Garden”
http://netk.net.au/MarshallDebi/DebiMarshall5.asp

Networked Knowledge - Book Reports
The book is The Devil’s Garden and it recalls the rising panic Perth people felt in January 1996 when 18-year-old Sarah Spiers vanished off a street near Club Bayview after an evening out with friends. A few months later Jane Rimmer, 23, went missing from the same area late at night. Then in March 1997, 27-year-old Ciara Glennon disappeared from the same place. The naked body of Jane Rimmer was found in bushland south of Perth. Ciara Glennon’s body was discovered in scrub at Eglinton to the north. Sarah has not been found.
One exception to this was Paul Ferguson, head of Major Crime at the time of the Claremont murders who, Marshall says, tells it like it is. Others were open but not prepared to be identified.。。。Dave Caporn, as the face of the investigation during its most critical period, he is the one Macro officer I am most hoping to speak with 。。 however David Caporn in the end completely refused to talk with Ms Marshall about his and the Macro Task Force’s investigation into the Claremont Serial Killings and Adbuctions…
Marshall also includes the cases of Hayley Dodd and Sarah McMahon who disappeared in 1999 and 2000. She believes the police have not exhausted the possibility that they – Sarah, in particular – could also be victims of the Claremont killer. “I do think she could be a victim, yes, I do. There is no way you can wipe it out,” she says. But Mr Lampard dismisses this allegation out of hand. “Ms Marshall speculates often about how many other victims of the Claremont serial killer there are 。。。。

.。。Ms Marshall speculates often about how many other victims of the Claremont serial killer there are, yet the world-renowned Schramm review panel of experts found no evidence of any links with 24 other cases of murdered or missing women in WA,” he says. “The book devotes many pages to rehashing the handful of well-documented miscarriage of justice cases in WA over the past four decades or so.

Marshall believes there are other assaults and murders that could be linked to the Claremont killer and there were other people – and one in particular – who also warranted further serious investigation. “I was gobsmacked at some of the leads that weren’t chased,” she says. “It was really disturbing for me.” While the police investigation also left the reputations of a few men in tatters, she herself was unable to include some of the information because of legal constraints. But in her efforts to discover just who and what the police had looked into, she ran into a blue wall of silence. While the WA police verbally agreed to talk to her, they refused once she arrived in Perth last year researching the book, claiming there was nothing to be gained by talking about an ongoing investigation.

Just weeks before her deadline late last year, they switched again and Marshall was allowed to speak to some of the senior investigators who had worked on the case. But not Dave Caporn, the high-profile head of the Macro taskforce for several years. Part of the reason given for this was the ongoing Corruption and Crime Commission investigation into the wrongful conviction of Andrew Mallard for the murder of Mosman Park jewellery shop owner Pamela Lawrence in 1994, a case in which Caporn was also closely involved. “And the police culture was like a real boys’ club. - they would almost pat me on the head and say, run along, your boyfriend’s waiting,” she says. “I think this sort of attitude really hindered the investigation, a terrible arrogance, a blind arrogance.

 Marshall believes another reason for this investigation’s lack of accountability is the small pool of journalists in Perth who rely on having cordial relations with police to get stories. “The reality is that they need to go out and deal with the police on a day-to-day basis.
It has been a long, sultry and emotional day. My understanding is that the next morning Lee will facilitate interviews with other officers who had worked on Macro and furnish material to me that I had requested. It isn’t to be. Instead, I am afforded only a telephone call.

“You’re not going to like this, Debi,” Lee begins with a hint of genuine apology. “No police officers are allowed to speak to you.” I am stunned. “Why not?” “Sorry, I can’t tell you that. I am not at liberty to discuss it with you any further.” “Why wasn’t I told this before I came to Perth?”
“Sorry.” I sense that he is. Younger, less entrenched in the patronising attitude often afforded the media by older officers, Lee can see the benefits of a healthy relationship with the press. But his hands are tied. “I can only advise you to put your grievance in writing to the commissioner, Karl O’Callaghan.”
Bewildered, I take his advice.
[This edited version of the report has been prepared by Dr Robert N Moles]

Debi Marshall homepage
See also
Go here: for lectures and articles on forensic issues
Bob Moles: A state of Injustice - book now online
Bob Moles: Losing Their Grip - The Case of Henry Keogh - book now online
On 26 May 2007 the Sunday Times reported “Lost in the Devil's Garden” [Debi Marshall talks to Danielle Benda].

Under attack by WA Police for her yet-to-be-released book on the Claremont serial killings, true crime writer and journalist Debi Marshall talked to Danielle Benda:
The usually hard-bitten police officer let his sensitivities show only occasionally as he took Debi Marshall around the significant sites in the Claremont serial killings. “Once having seen, you can’t unsee,” he says. “You can’t get rid of the visions from your head. They hang around and haunt you. Forever.”  It’s a sentiment that resonated deeply with Marshall who, as a Queensland-based journalist and author, has built her career writing about some of the most awful crimes in Australia. Having just finished books about the Snowtown killings in South Australia and the abduction and murder of Queensland baby Deirdre Kennedy, Marshall, 48, says she already felt drenched in blood last year when she turned her attention to Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon who disappeared from the streets of Claremont in 1996 and 1997. “You can’t unsee what you have seen – I really related to that,” she says. “At the end of Snowtown I was having these really horrendous nightmares. We are all pretty tough as journalists, you know, we are trained for it, but some things we are not trained for. After that I thought ‘Enough. No more of these tales’.”

But the Claremont murders had been on her mind since she first heard about a killer stalking Perth’s beautiful young women in the heart of one of its most comfortable suburbs when she was crime writer at a national weekly magazine. “I had been thinking about the story for ages,” she says. “I think the fact that my daughter was the same age (18) as one of the victims ... I kept looking at her and thinking ‘I wonder who took those girls in the West?’,” she says. “It’s a scary thought to think that if we ignore these things, they just go under the carpet.” And there was the old pull of crime. “I like writing about crime – it has a real fascination for me,” she says. “And I kept thinking about the parents, what they were going through. What it would be like to live with it?”

And once more she found herself immersed in a tale of searing horror and bottomless sorrow. She was moved to tears, frustrated, scared and shaken to the core by her experiences researching this story. “I didn’t realise how hard it was going to be. It was complicated, heartbreaking and very, very scary,” she says. In the end it was her experiences with the parents of the missing women, torn apart by grief and not knowing, that made her most determined to follow the story through. “They get into your soul, the parents and the girls, you walk with them in the end,” Marshall says.“Jenny Rimmer said to me ‘I thought you may have given up. - it’s good you haven’t’. “I just really hope something comes of this book.”

The book is The Devil’s Garden and it recalls the rising panic Perth people felt in January 1996 when 18-year-old Sarah Spiers vanished off a street near Club Bayview after an evening out with friends. A few months later Jane Rimmer, 23, went missing from the same area late at night. Then in March 1997, 27-year-old Ciara Glennon disappeared from the same place. The naked body of Jane Rimmer was found in bushland south of Perth. Ciara Glennon’s body was discovered in scrub at Eglinton to the north. Sarah has not been found. In the book, Marshall pulls together all the information she can find about the women, their personalities, their families and their last movements. She evokes the carefree party atmosphere of the area’s nightspots and the sickening shock of the women’s disappearances.

Then she casts her gaze over the massive police operation that followed and the formation of the Macro taskforce to investigate the murders. And it is this aspect of her story that she found perhaps most disturbing of all. Marshall describes a police force which is highly secretive and defensive and which focused so much attention on one man – public servant Lance Williams – that it did not follow up leads and allegations about other possible suspects. “I believe there is a hell of a lot more that could be done. Should be done,” she says. “They (the police) seemed to become fixated with Lance Williams and I was unnerved about that. If they have the evidence they should charge him.” And further, Marshall believes that by releasing Williams’s details and constantly – and often overtly – tailing him, Perth people were given false assurances, believing that even if they could not charge Williams, the police had prevented further killings. “They led the public to think, ‘We’re OK, we’ve got our man’ and everything was geared to that end. I came out with a great sense of disquiet,” she says. “Someone is out there who is a serial killer. Where is he? Perth women can’t afford to be complacent. “He may have died, he may have gone to another city, but he could just as easily come back.”

Marshall believes there are other assaults and murders that could be linked to the Claremont killer and there were other people – and one in particular – who also warranted further serious investigation. “I was gobsmacked at some of the leads that weren’t chased,” she says. “It was really disturbing for me.” While the police investigation also left the reputations of a few men in tatters, she herself was unable to include some of the information because of legal constraints. But in her efforts to discover just who and what the police had looked into, she ran into a blue wall of silence. While the WA police verbally agreed to talk to her, they refused once she arrived in Perth last year researching the book, claiming there was nothing to be gained by talking about an ongoing investigation.

Just weeks before her deadline late last year, they switched again and Marshall was allowed to speak to some of the senior investigators who had worked on the case. But not Dave Caporn, the high-profile head of the Macro taskforce for several years. Part of the reason given for this was the ongoing Corruption and Crime Commission investigation into the wrongful conviction of Andrew Mallard for the murder of Mosman Park jewellery shop owner Pamela Lawrence in 1994, a case in which Caporn was also closely involved. “And the police culture was like a real boys’ club. - they would almost pat me on the head and say, run along, your boyfriend’s waiting,” she says. “I think this sort of attitude really hindered the investigation, a terrible arrogance, a blind arrogance. “I don’t believe there was any corruption, I think they suffered from tunnel vision and this arrogant attitude of ‘We know what we’re doing and we’re not going to share it with you’ – ‘you’ being anyone outside the taskforce. “And then they would say, ‘Well, how does she know what we did?’. It was a merry-go-round. There was one name (that) when I mentioned it, they would smirk at me enigmatically and say, ‘It’s an ongoing investigation, we can’t tell you that, we are not going to admit that’.”

One exception to this was Paul Ferguson, head of Major Crime at the time of the Claremont murders who, Marshall says, tells it like it is. Others were open but not prepared to be identified. But Deputy Commissioner Murray Lampard defends the WA Police’s position with Marshall, confirming that they refused to let her inside the Macro investigation. “Does she truly believe that investigators of any major case, never mind serial killings, should be talking about sensitive information and operational tactics in public and in the media?” he asks. “We don’t believe the public, nor the victims’ families, want that.” He says WA police wear the “blue wall of silence” tag surrounding Macro as a badge of honour: “It is a practice used widely by law enforcement agencies throughout the world.”

Mr Lampard also accuses Marshall of being insensitive towards the victims of the Claremont serial killer and their families. “WA Police have endeavoured over the years to protect the sensitivity and integrity of the families involved,” he says. “This book really is a crass attempt to cash in one of WA’s biggest tragedies.” Mr Lampard says he believes Marshall has unfairly targeted Dave Caporn, one of four officers who headed the Macro taskforce. “The personal attacks on Dave Caporn are quite frankly shameful,” he says. And he strongly denies that the investigation ever got tunnel vision: “The Macro investigation is not, and has never been, focused on one line of inquiry or one individual.”

But Marshall says she is not the only one unimpressed with the police attitude. While she says Don Spiers and Denis Glennon would not tolerate criticism of the police, in whom they had placed their trust to find their daughters’ killer, Jane Rimmer’s parents were not so convinced. “They were not happy,” Marshall says. “Trevor Rimmer said ‘Where is my daughter and what are they doing?’. They (the police) forget that the taxpayers are funding them. We’re paying these guys and we have a right to ask, we have a right to know, what has actually been done.” Marshall also believes the investigation into the Claremont killings was a casualty of a changing police culture where career police officers were promoted over old-school coppers. “The overriding problems were two-fold. First, it was so secretive, and still is, and they were not inviting the feedback that you need to get. And that was combined with all that change in policy where administration was to the forefront,” Marshall says.

Mr Lampard points out that Macro has been reviewed 11 times, making it the most reviewed investigation in WA history. None has identified any errors or oversights, he says. Each review made recommendations which were accepted and implemented. Those recommendations sought to enhance investigative and forensic work already done. Mr Lampard says Marshall writes about Macro as “a catalogue of disasters” yet the review team (which was made up of forensic, profiling and homicide experts from the UK, the US and Australia and headed by Superintendent Paul Schramm) found there were no problems with the taskforce work. But Marshall says most of the reviews were conducted internally. “There were so many reviews and so much money spent, but you have got to ask ‘Who is marking the report card?’. That struck me, who’s doing it? They are not very independent – you are getting coppers looking at coppers,” she says.

Marshall believes another reason for this investigation’s lack of accountability is the small pool of journalists in Perth who rely on having cordial relations with police to get stories. “The reality is that they need to go out and deal with the police on a day-to-day basis. I’m not attacking journalists. That’s not what I wanted to do. They are probably not in the position I’m in. I can fly in, kick up a bit of dust and fly out again,” she says. “But I did have the situation where people would say ‘No one’s ever asked us these questions before’, which used to alarm me a little bit.” Marshall says it is impossible to look into the Claremont investigation without taking a wider look at police culture in WA and the large number of miscarriage of justice cases going back as far as the 1960s. Key parts of the book are set against the backdrop of the Andrew Mallard case and the Kennedy Royal Commission into police corruption. “It was a very complex tale,” she says. “It was like working on a big jigsaw puzzle – the more I got into it, there were just layers and layers and layers. There were tentacles going out into other stories everywhere.”

Marshall also includes the cases of Hayley Dodd and Sarah McMahon who disappeared in 1999 and 2000. She believes the police have not exhausted the possibility that they – Sarah, in particular – could also be victims of the Claremont killer. “I do think she could be a victim, yes, I do. There is no way you can wipe it out,” she says. But Mr Lampard dismisses this allegation out of hand. “Ms Marshall speculates often about how many other victims of the Claremont serial killer there are, yet the world-renowned Schramm review panel of experts found no evidence of any links with 24 other cases of murdered or missing women in WA,” he says. “The book devotes many pages to rehashing the handful of well-documented miscarriage of justice cases in WA over the past four decades or so. To even hint that there is any connection between those cases and Macro is misleading and dishonest.”

Marshall believes the police are unwilling to admit there could be more victims because it would expose the shortcomings of their investigations. “My opinion is that there are more than three victims," she says. "The police are doing a good job of keeping that as tightly wrapped as possible. But, say there is a best-case scenario where someone puts their hand up and the case is solved but they say ‘I did eight’, it’s not going to look real good is it? “I know it sounds alarmist, but if people in Perth aren’t feeling unnerved, they should be. I was unnerved. I talked to young people at Claremont and asked them if they knew about Sarah Spiers, but it was like she was a ghost – not real any more. They think it’s not going to happen to them, but there have been cases where they (serial killers) have been lying low for up to 20 years and then suddenly - bang. “I hope people in WA will read (this book) because I think they need to. It needs to be read and talked about by the public and the police as well. I would like to think there is a broader readership across Australia as well. It is an Australian story.

“When I first said I was going to write this story people would look at me astounded and say ‘You can’t do that, it hasn’t got an ending. It’s unsolved, the readers are going to want to have a resolution’. Well, they can’t have one. We can’t have one. That’s the point. “It needs to be remembered how hideous this is. It could be our daughters. That is the reality. I do think he is out there.”

MURDER MOST FOUL

In February 2006, Debi Marshall was told that police involved in the Claremont serial killings investigation would finally talk to her for her book, and she was taken to the sites where the bodies of Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon were found. Here is an edited extract of that first emotional day: Detective Senior-Sergeant Anthony Lee and Senior-Sergeant Ken Sanderson, a forensic specialist, meet me near where I am staying. Forty-year-old Lee, with rugby player shoulders, is imposingly tall and wears a slightly arrogant air. Sanderson – older, ginger-haired and with a gentler attitude – does not appear as hard-bitten. Forensic investigation is a less abrasive field than working the mean streets as a detective.

Sanderson swings the unmarked police car out of South Perth and heads toward Stirling Highway. It will be a long day, starting with the disposal site of Jane Rimmer, moving to Claremont and on to where Ciara Glennon’s body was found. There is a tacit camaraderie between Lee and Sanderson. That’s not surprising: police work is tough, the reason why camaraderie is so entrenched in the force. They protect each other and protect themselves, as soldiers did in the trenches; part of their mateship ethos. Police work their way up through the ranks, coming into daily contact with the sordid side of life. But it’s this that bedevils them most, the murder of innocents and the girls who never came home. The despair on their parents’ faces when they knock on the door with the news. “I’m sorry to tell you, we believe we have found your daughter.”

Lee is only too acutely aware of it all, and it is in talking about this that his sensitivities show. “Once having seen, you can’t unsee,” he says. “You can’t get rid of the visions from your head. They hang around and haunt you. Forever.” We cruise along Stirling Highway. With Lee free to talk, it’s a good time to start the taped interview.“Why is this investigation so secretive?” I ask him. He turns from the front seat. “If we open up the case to journalists, how does that help the investigation? It doesn’t. It just means the paper has got a good story. If they are critical of the police, we’re not interested. That’s not arrogance – it’s just that we’ve consulted with all the people we should be consulting with. “The fact is, with unsolved cases we’re always going to reach a level of controversy. That’s the nature of the beast.” It seems a reasonable point. “And you’ve reached it, have you?”

“We’ve well and truly reached it. We probably reached it after two years in the Claremont case. People are asking ‘Are we competent? Are we good enough to do the job anyway? Are we big enough to handle this?’. And my answer is I’m confident that police have been innovative in their approach and looked at the case as broadly as we can. And the review came out and said the things we are doing are world best practice. Designed and innovated here in Western Australia.”

DM: “What sort of things?” 
AL: “I’ll leave that for Dave Caporn to talk to you about.”
Dave Caporn. As the face of the investigation during its most critical period, he is the one Macro officer I am most hoping to speak with.
DM: “Macro has copped a lot of criticism, not least over the fact that these crimes are still unsolved. What is your reaction to that?” 
AL: “I think I’ve just given you an insight into that. The reviews weren’t critical.”
Those reviews. They rear their heads at every opportunity.
DM: “But isn’t that part of the criticism? That the police have been too insular, in waiting too long to look outside Western Australia? Isn’t that intrinsic to the criticism?”
He leans around from the front seat of the car again. “How long’s too long?”
DM: “Ten years, probably.” 
AL: “It hasn’t been 10 years!”

It is February 2006. The first known disappearance was January 1996. The murders have been unsolved for 10 years; the first complete and independent review in 2004 – eight years. He is splitting straws. I let it go.
DM: “I would like to know what has been done, and by whom and when.”
Lee nods. “It is the public’s fundamental right to ask, are they getting the service they pay for from the state?”
“That’s right.” I agree. “Certainly the people I’ve spoken to in the short time I’ve been in Perth – general members of the public say they feel discouraged, ripped off. The attitude is ‘Why don’t the cops do something?’. They seem to deeply resent the lack of transparency.”
Lee noticeably bristles. “Why should we lay bare the facts if it’s going to compromise the investigation? Why should we?”
DM: “Because people are saying they feel they have a false sense of security, they are blindly walking around in the dark and that no one, least of all the police, knows who this serial killer is. They want the investigation back on track.” 
AL: “How do you know it’s not on track already?”
He has taken his sunglasses off and is in a half-turn, staring at me. “How do you know it’s not on track already?”
DM: “But it isn’t, is it.”
“Does the perception of the community outweigh the needs of investigation?” Lee asks. He doesn’t wait for my response. “If we did release information, what purpose would it serve and will it help our case? The simple answer, I believe, is no.”
I ask “(Why) would you stay on overt surveillance of Lance Williams for years and years? The community knows you’re looking at him, he knows you’re looking at him.”
AL: “Yep.” 
DM: “He’s never charged...” 
AL: “Yep.” 
DM: “Bucketloads of money have gone into it.” 
AL: “Yep. Relatively large amounts of money.” 
DM: “Which the taxpayer is funding.” 
AL: “Yep. Fair enough.” 
DM: “So the community has a right, doesn’t it, to demand to know why you did that. Where their money has gone? To ask what has it achieved?” 
AL: “Yep.” 
DM: “So what has it achieved? Anything?” 
AL: “I don’t know.”
He smiles. “There hasn’t been a murder since then.” His smile turns to outright laughter and now I’m finally getting what he is saying without him articulating it.
DM: “Right. So there apparently hasn’t been a murder for 10 years. If you take that by extension then it could be Lance Williams, but you just don’t have enough to charge him with?”
Now I’m laughing. “It does sound a little like ‘We let John Button go, but we still know we had the right bloke’.”
“How do you know we don’t with Claremont?” he asks, before turning back to look out the front window.
We move to another topic. “Why won’t the police release modus operandi?”
The modus operandi, he says, needs to be kept secret so that in the event of someone coming forward and making admissions about a murder, police can validate that admission. “And as for suspects: a number of people in Perth, by virtue of their odd behaviour, have been extensively investigated, in effect creating a database of information about their activities,” he says.
I ask if they have investigated a particular individual, whom I name.
“No comment,” he says. “You’ll have to talk to Dave Caporn about that.”
Caporn. I am starting to feel as if I am shadow-boxing with a silent partner, a phantom. Lee concedes the individual I have named is known as a character in Perth, that he is a possibility. But he wants to return to discussing miscarriage of justice cases in Western Australia; he can’t understand their relevance to the Claremont story. I can’t understand why he needs to even query why.
“Because,” I remind him, “people are scared. If police can get it wrong in other cases – and there is no doubt they have – what does that say about how they have handled Claremont?”
We come upon it, suddenly, a white cross on the verge of this overgrown rural track. No lilies now in the scorching heat of this summer day, but trees that grow wild, their branches entangled as if united in prayer. A freight railway line is close, rusted iron sheeting abandoned on nearby slips and horses graze in paddocks high with brambles. Woolcoot Rd at Wellard is still and quiet, even in the prime of the day. Still and quiet, even as the softest breeze whispers that we should step carefully, here in front of the cross that marks Jane Rimmer’s disposal site.

I close my eyes and try to imagine what had happened 10 years earlier. A car creeping along this track under cover of darkness and crawling to a halt, just here. The driver checking there are no signs of headlights from an approaching vehicle, no one watching his furtive movements as he drags Jane’s lifeless body out of the vehicle and down into this lonely verge. He would be hurried, perhaps now slightly panicked, as he covers her with light foliage.
It is obscene to imagine that the Rimmers’ beloved daughter and adored sister was picked up and tossed away. This awful place doesn’t fit the smiling young woman whose photos adorn her family home, whose spirit lingers over all her parents’ conversations.

The highway leading to Eglinton is ringed with houses now, but it wasn’t always so. In 1997, when Ciara Glennon was in the vehicle in which she travelled to this place, it was a long, lonely stretch of emptiness.

To travel through the city traffic from Claremont, stop at red lights, cruise through the suburbs and head out to the bush, would then have been a one-hour drive. A high-risk drive, with a young woman in the car who was either scared for her life, or already dead. One mistake and a police car could have pulled the driver over. Just one error of judgment, the smallest slip. Or was her killer so confident, so psychopathic, that nothing bothered him?
The police car turns off Pipidinny Rd and turns left into a rough dirt track before it comes to a stop. From this vantage point, the killer could have seen headlights approaching; fishermen or sporting enthusiasts on their way to the sea.

It is an uncomfortably hot day and Lee advises I take care as I follow him and Ken Sanderson through the scrub to the site. The area, he warns, is teeming with ticks that latch on like leeches and which can cause a nasty infection if not carefully dislodged. I gingerly pick up my feet as I follow Lee of the track and into deeper scrub. Then, suddenly, there it is.
A white cross, placed by the police as a sign of respect and as a marker for future officers who need to find the site. A terrible reminder of a life cut short. I stare down at the cross and feel a roiling somersault in my gut. Ciara Glennon – brilliant, young, vibrant – dumped here where she would lie for 19 days before she was discovered in this godforsaken, remote place. God only knows what happened to her before her killer wrenched the claddagh brooch from her as a trophy, a memento.
Crows wheel overhead, their harsh caw piercing the still air and the cloudless sky offers no protection from a fierce sun. It feels like we are in Hades. Anthony Lee, privy to the terrible facts of Ciara’s murder, has set his jaw hard, and grimaces. Sanderson shakes his head, staring down at the cross.
I realise I am crying, and turn from the desolate place before they notice, and stumble back to the car. There is a bleak silence before any of us speak again, nothing to say of any consequence: nothing, except to speak of the futility of it all; the terrible, tragic futility.

Ken pulls the police car off the track, gripping the steering wheel hard. When he speaks, his voice is barely audible. “It could have been anyone’s daughter,” he says. “Anyone’s daughter.”
It has been a long, sultry and emotional day. My understanding is that the next morning Lee will facilitate interviews with other officers who had worked on Macro and furnish material to me that I had requested. It isn’t to be. Instead, I am afforded only a telephone call.
“You’re not going to like this, Debi,” Lee begins with a hint of genuine apology. “No police officers are allowed to speak to you.”
I am stunned. “Why not?”
“Sorry, I can’t tell you that. I am not at liberty to discuss it with you any further.”
“Why wasn’t I told this before I came to Perth?”
“Sorry.”
I sense that he is. Younger, less entrenched in the patronising attitude often afforded the media by older officers, Lee can see the benefits of a healthy relationship with the press. But his hands are tied.
“I can only advise you to put your grievance in writing to the commissioner, Karl O’Callaghan.”
Bewildered, I take his advice.
Claremont serial killer case: WA Police investigate 1995 rape lead
Emma Young -OCTOBER 16 2015

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/claremont-serial-killer-case-wa-police-investigate-1995-rape-lead-20151016-gkaq8i.html
Police have reportedly linked the Claremont serial killer case to an unsolved rape in 1995. 
Ciara Glennon, Sarah Spiers and Jane Rimmer. 

The Post has reported police have forensic evidence linking Ciara Glennon's killer with a rapist who abducted a 17-year-old woman from a Claremont street then raped her in Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995.
The young woman had left Club Bay View shortly after midnight and was walking to a friend's house when she was abducted, taken to the cemetery, raped and released, The Post reported. 
Sarah Spiers disappeared the following year and her body was never found. Jane Rimmer then Ms Glennon disappeared in turn and their bodies were later found in Perth.
The Post reported that police, who said at the time the Karrakatta attack was not linked, had now changed their view after finding a forensic link in 2009 and a 12-member squad was working on the case
There was a "definite forensic link" found between the rape and the murder of Ms Glennon, editor Bret Christian told Radio 6PR on Friday.
"The young woman, the 17-year-old, she was walking to a friend's place in Gugeri Street near the Claremont Showgrounds and she never made it," he said. 
"She made it as far as the Showgrounds subway and a man grabbed her, put something over her head, tied her, up - she said with telephone cable - and bundled her into the back of what she said was a commercial vehicle, and drove her deep into the cemetery, where she was sexually assaulted.
"She told police she didn't see the man, didn't have a description of him and was let go, with no clothes, and ran to Hollywood Hospital, which was on the other side of the cemetery.
"They now know that the person who committed that sexual assault is the Claremont serial killer and if they solve that earlier crime, they will have solved the other three."
"I understand they don't know [who it is yet] but they've looked damn hard and long and they've re-tested, re-interviewed literally thousands of people since they made that link and of course gone into databases and turned over every rock they can think of.
"When they began this cold case review in 2004 they announced they would be examining 16 disappearances of women so who knows how active and for how long this guy has been before this, or [how he] escalated behaviour afterwards. And of course if they'd caught him
at the time of the first sexual assault the rest would never have happened.
"I think they really thoroughly investigated it, but maybe with what is known today, or maybe if they'd thrown the resources into that that they'd thrown into the other three disappearances they may have come up with a different result at the time before everything went cold.
"When the Claremont series began we went to an FBI profiler in the states and put the four crimes to him and he said 'I would be looking thoroughly at that first sexual assault, because I think that's your bloke.'
"And we got criticised roundly and publicly for publishing this opinion which turns out to be right."
Perth lawyer Terry Dobson, once a detective who had worked on the Claremont cases, told Radio 6PR the revelation was not a surprise.
He said the Karrakatta matter was looked at "very early on" when a local Claremont detective, an experienced officer, had called in and nominated that crime as being worthy of following up. "A number of officers" had shared his opinion that Karrakatta was "the start of it".
"That wasn't unusual," he said.
"It was happening a lot, experienced detectives and officers nominating similar crimes and suspects."
In fairness, he said, investigative techniques were now different and police had much better technology and scientific knowledge to work with and it was just as well because this lead could be "incredibly important".
"I would be surprised if they weren't throwing the kitchen sink at this," he said.
"There are brand new investigators in ... [and] they won't rest until they solve this, or they certainly won't stop trying. They will never stop trying to solve this one."
On the relative lack of forensic evidence, he said it could be the case that the killer had gone beyond the stage of leaving evidence behind before his crimes escalated to murder.
"Often serial killers will start off with an interest in hurting animals, they like to light fires, they like to watch fires," he said.
"Usually there is some sort of deviant behaviour leading up to it before they get the attention of the police. It may be that whatever he did the relevant samples weren't taken prior to this. It could be that he's just left stuff at a crime scene as opposed to having it taken from him
by investigators or in the alternative, he's from another jurisdiction in Australia, or [even] from outside Australia.
"That's something that's always bothered me. If you look at the way the three murders were committed you've got a killing machine. You've got a superb killer. They don't just fall out of the sky. They develop. They learn their craft. [And they don't stop]. He's either dead or he's in another jurisdiction."
WA Police has issued a statement in response to the report. 
"For operational reasons the macro taskforce is not commented on similar media reports about possible links to other crimes," a spokesperson said. 
"Maintaining the operational integrity of this investigation is paramount if we are to bring the offender or offenders to justice. Therefore operational outcomes must be prioritised over media reports or public interest. Media reports on an active investigation
can seriously jeopardise an investigation or negatively impact future prosecutions."

Ms Spiers went missing from outside a Claremont nightclub in January 1996.

Ms Rimmer, 23, was abducted from Claremont in June 1996 and her body found in bushland south of Perth that August.

Ms Glennon, 27, disappeared in March 1997. Her body was found in bushland north of Perth 19 days after she was last seen in Claremont.

Task Force Macro is Australia's longest-running and most expensive murder investigation.
It has investigated well over 3000 people and interviewed more than 500 people who were in Claremont on the night Ms Rimmer disappeared.
In 2008, detectives released previously unseen CCTV footage to media showing Ms Rimmer exchanging a greeting with an unidentified man outside the Continental Hotel in Claremont at midnight on June 9, the night she disappeared.
The hotel has closed and as Ms Rimmer leans against a pole a man approaches her, and she appears to acknowledge him. He then walks out of view, the grainy footage showing only his back. 
She remains on the footpath for many minutes after that, with many people milling around her. The rotating camera pans away from Ms Rimmer and when it returns, she is gone.
The poor quality footage had been sent to US space agency NASA for enhancement years before its release but NASA had been unable to improve it.
Police at the same time revealed more information about Ms Spiers and Ms Glennon.

Ms Spiers had called a taxi on January 27, 1996 after 2am, when she left Club Bayview. A witness reported seeing headlights nearby on Stirling Road, where Ms Spiers was reportedly waiting for the taxi. But the witness had lost sight of the headlights after turning onto Stirling Highway.
Witnesses had described seeing Ms Glennon talking to the occupant or occupants of a light-coloured vehicle that stopped on Stirling Highway before she disappeared on March 15, 1997.

They saw her leaning over with her hands on her knees by witnesses. They said when they looked back, the car and her were both gone and other potential sightings of her on the highway that day made it impossible to determine if she had got into the car or not.
Rumours swelled in 2014 that detectives in Perth were close to an arrest but police swiftly quashed these. 

 Police deny talk of Claremont arrest
JANUARY 22 2014

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/police-deny-talk-of-claremont-arrest-20140122-31909.html

Detectives in Perth have taken the unusual step of denying rumours that they are close to an arrest in the notorious unsolved Claremont serial killings.
Police are still hunting for the killer of Jane Rimmer, 23, Ciara Glennon, 27, abducted from the well-to-do western suburb of Claremont and murdered in 1996 and 1997. Sarah Spiers, 18, disappeared from the suburb in 1996.
Ciara Glennon, Sarah Spiers and Jane Rimmer. 
The former two women were found dead, but no trace has been found of Ms Spiers.
On Wednesday, a statement from police said rumours that a significant announcement was pending in relation to the investigation were not correct.
Detective Superintendent Anthony Lee of the Major Crime Division said there was no substance to the rumours suggesting an arrest was imminent or that a significant announcement regarding the investigation was to be made.
"This type of rumour does not serve to assist the investigation and causes unnecessary distress to the families," Det Supt Lee said.
"We know the investigation generates significant interest and for this reason WA Police are clarifying the situation with the public."
Task Force Macro, set up to probe the killings, is Australia's longest-running and most expensive murder investigation.
Ms Spiers went missing from outside a Claremont nightclub in January 1996. She is presumed dead.
Ms Rimmer's body was found in bushland south of Perth in August 1996.
Ms Glennon was found murdered on April 3, 1997 - 19 days after she was last seen in Claremont.
AAP
New footage of Claremont victim Jane Rimmer released
Andrea Hayward and Chris Thomson
AUGUST 28 2008
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/new-footage-of-claremont-victim-jane-rimmer-released-20080828-44it.html
Haunting footage of one of the victims of Perth's most notorious serial killer has been released by the WA Police.

The footage shows Jane Rimmer outside the Continental Hotel just after midnight on June 9, 1996 - the night she disappeared.

WA Police originally released the footage to local media this morning, only to re-release a better quality version of the CCTV footage late this afternoon, ahead of it screening on Foxtel at 5.30pm.
Ms Rimmer was one of three women who fell victim to the Claremont serial killer in 1996 and 1997.
The VHS CCTV footage released today shows a brief interaction between Ms Rimmer and an unidentified man, who police hope to identify.
The rotating camera shows Ms Rimmer waiting near a pole outside the popular nightspot. She acknowledges the man, before the camera pans away.
When it returns, she is gone.

Response from Con Bayens:

Claremont Serial Killings Trial: Ciara Glennon was drunk but in control, court told AAP December 13, 2019 
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-ciara-glennon-was-drunk-but-in-control-court-told-ng-b881410423z  

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The third Claremont murders victim was drunk but “very in control” before she left a pub and was never seen alive again, her alleged killer’s trial has heard.
Ciara Glennon had been back in Perth a fortnight after spending almost a year travelling when she was either abducted or lured from the affluent suburb’s entertainment strip, killed and dumped in bushland in 1997.
Workmate Abigail Davies, 48, said their law firm had St Patrick’s Day drinks in the boardroom on March 14 and a small group ended up going to the Continental Hotel.

Ms Glennon was captured on CCTV entering the venue but police have not found any other footage of her that night.
“She appeared relaxed and happy,” Ms Davies told the Western Australia Supreme Court trial of ex-Telstra technician Bradley Robert Edwards on Thursday.
At one stage, Ms Glennon “wandered off” for about 20 minutes and later chatted with a group of around five people Ms Davies didn’t know.
She briefly rejoined her colleagues then left on her own at about 11.45pm.
“She just said to me ‘I’m going’. She moved away from the group without really saying goodbye as such,” Ms Davies said.
“She was exuberant... she was drunk but she was very in control of everything about her person.”
Her parents Una and Denis Glennon initially weren’t overly concerned when their worldly 27-year-old didn’t return home but became increasingly worried when they learnt she had gone to the Continental.

Police told Mr Glennon his daughter’s body had been found just over a fortnight after she disappeared and he had to break the devastating news to his wife.


Jane Rimmer, 23, was last seen at the hotel in 1996 and Sarah Spiers, 18, vanished from the area earlier that year.
Also on Thursday, people who lived in the semi-rural suburb where Ms Rimmer’s body was found testified they heard a loud scream and a “very high-pitched and traumatic voice of a woman” shouting words to the effect of:
 “Leave me alone! Let me out of here!“

Above: Donald Morey, aka Matusevich
Donald Victor Morey, aka Matusevich,


Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - 
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?318778-Australia-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia-6&p=12898398&styleid=21
Donald Victor Morey, aka Matusevich crabstick said:  10-28-2016

  There is enough reports to suggest he is ex army. Im not sure how old he is. Yes, there is a few guys around that use the Im ex SAS as a shield   when they fear someone might give them a clobber. He might have been a mechanic? selling $10,000 bundles of amphetamine is organised   crime connections.    ' the was selling Sarah McMahon $10000 blocks of amphetamine,
 its not like he wouldn't have the cash for access to new vehicles, and cut and shut rebuild vehicles he could set up himself. Built fake taxis even. Because a fake taxi didn't have to buy a taxi plate, fake taxis were a cash cow.
If Morey is SAS or ex-military, he may have been trained in all the above. 
Mechanic being one of the core subjects for SAS. (SAS barracks are a stones throw from Stirling road, Claremont.)  Being SAS with a station wagon set up with a LSD diff, Morey could have driven any the back dirt tracks off the main roads up and down to the dump points with an element of ease. Police have said, it is someone who polishes their car a lot, with care to detail.
 Career Criminal  and self confessed SAS killer of many people, Donald Morey ..  and has admitted he was the last person to see or talk to Sarah Anne McMahan alive ... and according to his phone records was in the area of Bassendean the night Sarah Anne McMahon was talking to Donald Morey on her telephone and saying she was heading to see a friend in Bassendean and there was  strong evidence that Donald Morey aka Matusevich lied to the coroner about being at his boss Mr Allen's truck yard on the night that Sarah Anne McMahon Disappeared ... and a witness said she saw a bloodied dead body, with a rope around her neck that  looked like Sarah Anne McMahon is his room at his boss Mr Allen's home ... 
and that evening, saw him carrying what looked liked a dead body over his shoulder, wrapped up, out of the house, and said she helped clean up Donald's Morey's room at Mr Allen's home ... and Donald Morey aka Matusevich with Mr Allen's wife and Mr Allan saying that Donald Morey aka Matusevich   had a bag with all the things needed to kill someone  that Donald Morey aka  always carried around with him .... but the police after been told about this bag being at Mr and Mrs Allan's home waited for a about a week to go               and collect this important evidence ... giving plenty of time of Donald Morey's female partner he spent the weekends with in a house in  Chidlow ....to come and collect the black bag ... which gives the strong impression that as a witness has said .. 
 that Donald Morey worked as a killer and a illegal drug dealer for corrupt police and other powerful politicians,, powerful business people and the Chinese Triads and was protected by these corrupt police .,..
who rang Donald Morey's female partner to inform her she better quickly collect Donald Morey's damming black bag which 
help all the tools of trade to abduct and quickly and silently murder someone ..... 
and Donald Morey says he has constant contact with Sarah Anne McMahon since November, 2000 ...  and Sarah Anne McMahon has not even contacted her own family ... and not contacted anyone else buy career criminal and
 self confessed killer .... yet will not tell anyone where Sarah Anne McMahon is .... other that saying she is living in Canada 
 under another name and has two children......then with all that evidence  why haven't the Western Australian Police arrested Donald Morey on some charge associated with the disappearance of Saran Anne McMahon before Donald Morey is released from prison sometime in 2017 when his  13 year prison sentence ends .. so that Donald Morey can be refused bail while he goes to court over the new charge or charges associated with the disappearance of Sarah Ann McMahon on about the 8th of November, 2000....  and at the same time further investigate the connection of Donald Morey with the abduction/murder of  Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon. Lisa Brown and other missing girls ... 

 Jane Rimmer 

Jane Rimmer declined to come home with her friends on June 9, 1996. Jane's friend Lynda Donovan has now been called to give evidence.

Claremont serial killings trial: Bradley Edwards’ rape victim thought she’d die 
Angie Raphael and Rebecca Le May 
AAP December 9, 2019
perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-bradley-edwards-rape-victim-thought-shed-die-ng-b881406049z
A teenager who was bound, dragged through a cemetery, twice raped then dumped in bushes by accused Claremont serial killer Bradley Robert Edwards thought she was going to die.
The ex-Telstra technician has admitted the double rape and another separate attack, but is fighting allegations he murdered Sarah Spiers, 18, Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997.
The 17-year-old girl, who cannot be identified, was abducted from Rowe Park between 2.30am and 3am on February 12, 1995 and provided multiple lengthy statements, which were read out in the Western Australia Supreme Court on Monday.
“I thought at the end of it all that he was going to kill me,” she said, but he did not directly threaten her.
The girl had been out with friends but with only 50 cents left in her pocket at the end of the night, she could not afford a taxi and decided to walk a couple of hundred metres to a friend’s home.
“I usually leave with someone but I just wanted to go,” she said.
On the way, she was grabbed from behind, pushed to the ground and straddled, then had a thick cloth like a sock shoved deep into her mouth.
“I didn’t scream. I just froze,” she said.
“It happened really quickly.
“He told me to shut up at one point.
“I didn’t say anything to him. I was too frightened.
“I kept my eyes shut - I thought it would be better if he thought I couldn’t see him.”
He tied up her hands very tightly with a cord “as thick as a telephone cord“, carried her to his van, tied her ankles and covered her head with a cotton bag.
“I was very frightened. I thought I was going to die,” she said.
They drove for about 30 minutes and she said she might have heard a voice but could not make out what was being said.

When the vehicle stopped, she was pulled out, carried and dragged through Karrakatta Cemetery.
“I started to cry but not loudly,” she said.
The girl was then raped twice.
She kept her eyes closed and tried to act like she was unconscious during her ordeal.
“I was in a state of shock,” she said.
“I remember repeating, ‘Oh my god, I can’t believe this is happening’.
“It was very painful.
“I remember my face lying against the dirt.”
She was chucked in some scrub but Edwards returned about two minutes later then threw her into some more dense bushes.
After she heard the vehicle leave, she finally opened her eyes, realised she was in a cemetery and ran to the exit, which was about five metres away.
Believing people in nearby houses would think she was “crazy“, the semi-naked girl instead ran to a facility near Hollywood Hospital, where she dialled a phone with her chin and yelled for help.
The woman inside did not come out but called police while the still-bound girl ran off.
She saw headlights and feared it was her attacker, so hid behind a car, then called her father from a phone box and ran to Hollywood Hospital.
“I said ‘dad come and get me’.
“While I was crying I said I’d been raped.
“He asked me if I was alright and I said ‘no’.”

Why we didn't catch the Claremont killer
The former head of the Western Australian Police task-force responsible for catching the notorious Claremont killer has spoken out about the investigation that never hit its mark.
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shellyg Spec Moderator Jul 15, 2019
31st May 2015. It seems WA Police and Bayens are in disagreement.

​Claremont serial killings trial podcast: ‘The Guess Watch’PerthNow
December 11, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-podcast-the-guess-watch-ng-b881409089z
Jane Rimmer disappeared in the early hours of June 9, 1996 from Claremont. her body was found 55 days later on August 3 in bushland in Wellard.
On June 9, 1996, a man was riding a horse in Wellard, when his horse spooked. He fell off and found a guess watch.
That watch turned out to be Jane Rimmer's.
Day 13 of the Claremont Serial Killings trial heard the man didn't report the watch to police until after Jane's Body was found. It turns out he fell just two metres from where her body was dumped.
Before she disappeared, friends of Jane Rimmer relived the decision the 23-year-old made to stay out alone while her friends caught a taxi home the night she disappeared.
One friend, Lynda Donovan remembered a conversation she had with an emotional Jane the night she disappeared - a typical conversation many friends have had after a few drinks, only now it's a heartbreaking reminder of her friend, and her feelings about herself that night.
The court was shown more CCTV of the night Jane Rimmer was last seen alive, also, for the first time, vision of Ciara Glennon in Claremont was shown.
But probably the most important part of this vision was what wasn't able to be seen - Bradley Edwards.
The man the prosecution says killed Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon was nowhere to be seen.
Police said out of all of the vision they've managed to obtain from the nights the two women disappeared, there's no evidence of the man the prosecution say killed the two women in any of the vision.
Criminal defence lawyer Tom Percy QC joins Natalie Bonjolo and Tim Clarke to discuss why the day's proceedings go little way to proving Bradley Edwards is the Claremont Serial Killer.

Sarah Anne McMahon.
Sarah Ann McMahon was 20 when she disappeared after leaving work in the Perth suburb of Claremont on Wednesday, November 8, 2000. She lived with her parents Danny and Trish and younger sister Kate. Ten days later, her white Ford Meteor sedan was found in the car park of Swan Districts Hospital. A bag containing personal items was on the front seat, her empty wallet was in the boot and her mobile phone was on the ground nearby. Her mum Trish tells her story ... 
"We haven't seen or heard from Sarah since November 8, 2000, when she left for work in the morning. Apparently she received a call at work from a friend who was "suicidal" and intended to visit the mysterious caller. The police believe she's been murdered and we have all tried to accept this as a possibility, but in our hearts we know she is out there somewhere. At the time of Sarah's disappearance she was depressed ... a romance had soured, university had lost its appeal and she had a mobile phone bill for $800 she hadn't mentioned to us. Sarah felt as though she was in rough waters being tossed this way and that, and she had mentioned to a family friend that she wished she could just "go away and start again". We thought a visit to her older brother Paul and his family, who live near Melbourne, might break the cycle, but unfortunately that wasn't so. I visited Melbourne and Sydney putting up posters, giving out photos and talking to anyone who was willing to listen. Two years ago, a couple who had taken a photograph of Sarah rang to say they had distributed it at a youth seminar. The father of one of the children worked in security at Newcastle nightclubs, and he came across a young man who recognised her and confirmed her name when shown the photograph. But that was it. There have been no further sightings or news. We, Sarah's family, believe with all our hearts that our darling daughter, sister and granddaughter is out there. We will never believe otherwise. We love you, Sarah, please let us know you're all right. May the sun shine warm on your face, and until we meet again may God hold you in the palm of His hand." 

If you have any information, call Crimestoppers on 1800 333 000.

Man (Donald Morey) was 'too interested' in missing girl (Sarah McMahon: 
sister speaks out... by Rania Spooner
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/man-was-too-interested-in-missing-girl-sister-20121210-2b5rg.html
Man was 'too interested' in missing girl: sister 

​The sister of a Perth girl who vanished more than ten years ago after developing a friendship with an older man who has since been convicted of attempting to murder a prostitute has told the inquest into her sister's suspected death she always found the man "creepy".
Sarah Anne McMahon was 20 years old when she disappeared on October 8, 2000.
The last phone call Ms McMahon answered was from Donald Morey, then 45, who has since been convicted of attempting to murder a prostitute in 2003.
Counsel assisting the coroner at the inquest into the suspected death of Ms McMahon told the court Morey's attempt to strangle the woman to death came days after a fellow sex worker from the same Highgate strip had gone missing.
Ms McMahon's sister Amanda Smith giving evidence to the Coroner's Court on Monday said Morey met her sister at her house a couple of years before her disappearance.
When Ms Smith returned from living in regional Western Australia after a period of months she discovered "Don" and her sister were speaking on the phone "all the time", something that worried her, she said
"He was very interested in her – too interested," Ms Smith said.
"He was always trying to charm her."
Ms Smith said she found Morey "creepy".
Morey has never been ruled out as a suspect in the suspected death of Ms McMahon, Detective Darryl Cox told the Coroner's Court.
A special police unit that manages WA's cold cases reopened the case of Ms McMahon's disappearance last year and reinterviewed several witnesses.
One witness – a prostitute whose name has been protected – changed her original statement to make shocking claims that she saw the naked body of a woman she believed to be Ms McMahon in Morey's bedroom with a robe looped around her neck, counsel assisting the coroner Philip Urquhart told the inquest in his opening submissions.
The inquest is expected to hear the woman claimed she helped clean up the house after something wrapped in a quilt was removed from the bedroom.
The woman told police she wanted to "tell the whole truth" about what happened to Ms McMahon last year because she believed she was suffering from a terminal illness, Mr Urquhart told the inquest.

Claremont killer trial LIVE: CCTV of Jane Rimmer's last moments played to court
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-killer-trial-live-bradley-edwards-returns-to-court-after-rape-victim-testimony-20191210-p53iiw.html  
10th November, 2019 - 11.54am
Prosecution tendering old Telstra shorts
Mr Cohen has resumed giving his evidence. 
Ms Barbagallo is now showing him a series of five photos of his Yakka-made Telstra shorts seized by detectives for fibre testing.
Mr Yovich has indicated he will cross-examine Mr Cohen at a later date once he has reviewed today's transcript. 
The witness has been excused. 
An identikit drawn with Julie-Anne Johnstone in 1998 of a Telstra driver who leered at her while she was waiting for a taxi in Claremont the night after Sarah Spiers disappeared.
10th November, 2019  11.59am
Telstra employee who managed fleet vehicles gives evidence
The next witness is Stephen Gray.
The 64-year-old has short, white hair and is wearing a blue and white striped shirt with glasses folded into his breast pocket. 

He worked for Telstra between 1972, when it was called the Postmaster General's Department, until 2000, when he retired. 
He said he was originally a technician but moved into fleet management in April 1997. 
"[Fleet vehicles] are all the vehicles used by technicians," he said. 
He is now explaining pool vehicles - vehicles not assigned to an employee - could be used by employees following an accident or break-down, as a reward for good service, or by a team leader or other area of the company who needed the use of a vehicle. 
"There was a multitude of people who could use them," he said. 
"We tried to get them taken home [by employees] every night if we could because we didn't have room to store them.
"They wanted them out, if you were a good person, you'd get one to take home."
He said the keys to the pool vehicles were in a locked cabinet on the ground floor of Telstra's Herdsman depot, with the keys in Mr Gray's desk drawer. 
When he started, he said there were 100 vehicles in use and 20 pool vehicles and that there "wasn't really" any documentation about who had the pool vehicles. 
"If someone was given that vehicle for any reason they would have the key to it ... if it's an unused vehicle, the key would be locked up," he said. 
He said the pool vehicles were mostly Commodore wagons. He doesn't recall any vans but said it was "quite likely" they had some. 
"If the guy needed more room, he could use that as a case to present to his boss and say, 'I can't get everything in'," he said. 
"Technicians used to swap vehicles for a number of reasons.
"If a technician had a specific job on the day and he needed either test equipment or something he didn't normally have and another technician had it in his everyday kit, they would sometimes swap vehicles for the day, sometimes it was done without my knowledge."
He said when he first took on the role as fleet manager, sometimes employees would drive pool cars without his knowledge, and he recalls this occurring as he would receive speeding fines and customer complaints about the vehicles. 
Mr Gray's evidence is relevant to the state's case as they claim Mr Edwards used a Telstra van not assigned to him at the time to abduct and rape a teenager in 1995. 
The state alleges Mr Edwards also used two other Telstra vehicles - a Toyota Camry station wagon and a Holden Commodore station wagon assigned to him in 1996 and 1997 - to murder Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon. 
He is now giving evidence that Telstra station wagons for technicians in roles such as Mr Edwards' would often have a "moveable cage" between the back seats and boot of the vehicle. 
He is also saying there were occasional sedans in the fleet.
Julie-Anne Johnstone, who gave evidence last week, alleged she saw a man in a Telstra sedan leering at her in Claremont the night after Sarah Spiers disappeared. Police drew an identikit of the man. 
10th November, 2019  12.48pm
'Our old uniform had a T on the pants': Telstra veteran
Mr Gray is now being asked about the Telstra uniform, and how it changed over time.
He said it was in the earlier version of their navy uniform that trousers and shorts had a 'T' embroidered on the outside.
The prosecution has previously argued the navy uniform came into effect in around 1993.
The shorts the state tendered earlier today had a 'T' Telstra logo on the exterior.
Ms Barbagallo is now showing Ms Gray a pair of old workwear Mr Gray provided to police.
He said he couldn't remember with "any certainty" when he would have worn the pants but it would have been until around 1999.
"When I stopped being a fleet manager and became a corporate manager, the attire changed and I had to wear a suit," he said.
He said after becoming a corporate manager, he was not required to wear technician clothing.
He was made redundant in 2000 and left Telstra.
He said once the uniform didn't fit him anymore, he put the clothes into storage.
He said the pants he'd given police were "most likely" the pants he would have worn in the 1990s.
Ms Barbagallo has become slightly embarrassed asking when was the last time Mr Gray wore 94L sized trousers, the size of the pants seized.
"A long time ago ... it would be probably five or six years ago," he said.
Ms Barbagallo is now showing Mr Gray a copy of a Telstra uniform order from May 1996 when he ordered three navy 94L trousers.
Justice Stephen Hall has asked if he knows whether one of the trousers in that order is the same pair seized by police in 2019 and he has said, no.
10th November, 2019  1.04pm
Court is breaking for lunch
Court has adjourned for lunch and will resume at 2.15pm. 
Mr Gray is still giving his evidence. 
10th November, 2019  2.22pm
Telstra employee resumes his evidence
Mr Gray has resumed giving evidence. 
Ms Barbagallo is now showing him a document titled 'personal garment form' from May 1996 which showed he ordered three pairs of navy pleat trousers, size 94L as a replacement set of uniforms.
"Every year you would get replacement garments," he said. 
Another uniform request by Mr Gray from May 1997 showed he ordered another two pairs of navy pleat trousers, 94L. 
Another uniform request by Mr Gray showed he ordered another two pairs on navy pleat trousers, 94L - there is no date on this request but he said it would have been from around 1997 based on the other items he ordered.
The invoice for the above order is dated June 1997.
Mr Yovich is now cross-examining Mr Gray and asking if he worked at any other telecommunication companies after being made redundant from Telstra in 2000, he has said yes. 
He is now asking about Mr Gray's role as fleet manager. Mr Gray said most of the staff who took the pool cars home at night were administration staff, not those already assigned a vehicle.
This witness has been excused.
10th November, 2019  3.04pm
Cold case homicide detective conducted CCTV review in 2019
The next witness to be called is Detective Sergeant Justin Geary.
He is bald and is wearing a black suit, white collared shirt and pink tie. 
He said he has been part of the cold case investigation into the murders of Sarah, Jane and Ciara - nicknamed Operation Macro. 
In 2015 he was told to review all CCTV, media, audio and re-enactments relating to the disappearances. 
He said he reviewed the findings in 2019, following another review by another police officer in 2017.
It included reviewing the Karrakatta cemetery rape, the 1990 Hollywood Hospital attack, the 1988 Huntingdale sex assault, the 'Telstra living witness' locations and Bankwest ATM transactions Mr Edwards is alleged to have made in Claremont in December 1996.
Ms Barbagallo has asked if there was any CCTV found.
"The latter offences there were, the intitial offences [Karrakatta, Hollywood Hospital, Huntingdale] or Sarah Spiers - there weren't," he said. 
He said he found CCTV footage in respect to the Telstra living witness evidence, the ATM matters and Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon's deaths. 
He is now going through the Telstra vehicles associated with Mr Edwards that he was looking for, including a van registered to his father, and a vehicle registered to his brother - who were both Telstra workers as well. 
On 13 December 1996, he said they recovered footage from the Picnic boutique store police covert camera at 38 Bay View Terrace. 
The camera was next to the Bankwest ATM Mr Edwards is alleged to have made two withdrawals from that month.
"[The CCTV] functioned predominantly between Thursday ... to Monday early hours," he said. 
"The [quality is] predominantly poor, but in parts average." 
He is now being shown vision from the camera, time-stamped 13 December, 1996, 22:24:11. 
The area is dark and shows some parked cars and shadows of the lower half of people's bodies. 
Ms Barbagallo says the vision is important for what it doesn't show.
10th November, 2019  3.26pm
Cold case detective detailing CCTV from night Jane disappeared
Det. Serg. Geary is now being asked about CCTV from the night Jane Rimmer disappeared on June 8, 1996. 
He said there were six CCTV cameras in operation between Cottesloe and Claremont.
The night she vanished, Jane visited the Ocean Beach Hotel in Cottesloe and then went to club Bayview and the Continental Hotel in Claremont. 
He said there was no footage found from the OBH before 11.30pm on June 8, 1996. 
At The Continental Hotel, he said there were four cameras operational that night (please note the vision below is from The Continental Hotel, not Club Bayview as indicated in the caption).
The vision captured Jane outside the bar - it then cut away to another camera angle and when it returned around 50 seconds later, she was gone.
10th November, 2019  3.39pm
CCTV footage of Jane Rimmer's last movements shown to court
Det. Serg. Geary is now referring to cameras outside Club Bayview in Claremont.
He said the night Jane disappeared, there were seven cameras.
Re-enactment: Jane Rimmer decided to catch a taxi on her own the night she went missing.
The night Ciara disappeared on March 14, 1997 - there were nine.
Ciara was captured on the two new cameras.
Ms Barbagallo is now showing the detective a compilation of CCTV from The Continental Hotel and Club Bayview of the night Jane disappeared.
Vision taken at 10.39pm shows Jane and her friend Lynda squeezing down a stairwell past a large group of people who are entering the bar. The pair are then seen standing on the street talking to each other outside the venue for around five minutes. They are very close to the kerb.
At 11.40pm, Jane can be seen walking back down the stairs inside the venue and appears unsteady on her feet. She trips at the bottom and falls before leaving the hotel with Lynda.
At 11.41pm, Jane can be seen with her friends Ben, Sian and Lynda standing outside the venue talking, again close to the curb.
At 11.49pm, Lynda is seen showing the Club Bayview bouncer her ID and going back up the venue's stairs. She chats for a few minutes inside the venue to a woman called Christine. She leaves the bar again at 11.52pm.
From 11.49pm Jane is seen walking down the street alone, and she goes to step out onto the street before she greets a person standing just outside of the frame. She chats with him for some time before her friend Lynda joins them. As Lynda ties up her hair, Jane turns to continue talking to the man. His back is to the camera, but Jane's face is clearly visible in the bottom corner of the shot. She appears happy. Moments later, Jane turns and walks up the street alone, carrying her jacket, and out of the shot.
There are another 12 minutes of footage from the night Jane vanished which will be played tomorrow.

10th November, 2019  4.20pm
Court proceedings have wrapped up for the day
Court has adjourned for the day.
Det. Serg. Geary will resume giving his evidence, and talking through the remainder of the footage from Jane's last known moments, from 10am tomorrow.
Justice Stephen Hall has agreed to release photos of the old Telstra uniform shorts and trousers - belonging to Jeffrey Cohen and Stephen Gray respectively - which the state alleges are from the 1990s and would have been the same as pants worn by Mr Edwards at the time.
Media requests relating to the Club Bayview and Continental Hotel CCTV footage were not received in time to be considered for release.
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Yesterday 4.51pm
Judge releases photos of Telstra pants, short

A pair of Telstra-issued work shorts used by the prosecution to illustrate the type of shorts Mr Edwards allegedly wore around 1996 and 1997. They are important to the state's case as fibres allegedly matching Telstra work uniform material were found on Ciara and Jane's bodies. The shorts were given to police by Jeffrey Cohen as an example.

Telstra-issued work trousers from around the 1990s period. They were produced by Yakka, and were tendered to the court by the prosecution as another example of the uniform Mr Edwards would have been required to wear around 1996 and 1997. This pair were given to police by Stephen Gray, a former Telstra fleet management employee, in 2019.

The Police and Prosecution show the CCTV at around 12pm outside of The Continental Hotel which they falsely claim shows Jane Rimmer's last known movements the night she disappeared., however there were four university students that claim they saw what looked like Jane Rimmer at around 12.30 am, around 30 minutes later walking down Stirling Highway towards the City of Perth, trying to obtain a ride .... they were going to pick the girl up but in the end decided not to pick her up ,, a decision they now deeply regret .... 

Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitching - Uni Student says
Author: Andrew Clennell Date: 19th June, 1996
Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition
University student Emma Clayton and her friends almost picked up a blonde girl she is sure was Jane Rimmer early on the Sunday Morning Jane Rimmer disappeared.
Miss Clayton (21 years old uni student) said she saw the girl staggering along Stirling Highway, thumb out, hitching a lift at 12.30 am. Emma Clayton told police about the incident and her description of the cloths Jane was wearing matched that of a police description which had not been released to the media. Ms Clayton said she and her friends had been in Stirling Highway after leaving a 21st birthday party at Claremont Yacht Club. "Down near Lock Street we saw a girl Hitchhiking," she said. The Girl had her thumb out and we just slowed down and thought maybe we should pick her up but didn't." The conversation between the two couples in the car had been that she was a silly girl for trying to hitch in the area and they discussed whether they should pick the girl up. The decided at the last minute to move on. "we said of all placed for a girl to be hitchhiking alone, this was probably the worst," Miss Clayton said. She said initially, after she had heard of Jane Rimmer's disappearance, she felt guilty that that hadn't picked her up. "If we had picked her up things would have been a lot different, " Miss Clayton said. When she and her friends saw the girl there were no other cars on the Stirling Highway ...

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Simonsays that provides posts to te BigFooty.com website

has stated:

1. There was a blonde guy with bobbed hair about 24 y/o in Claremont saying his dad was a cop & offering lifts to women. Looked similar to the blonde guy seen on video footage speaking to JR according to Camille Maclean.

2. As quoted on ABC Radio, Steve Ross a taxi driver  provided a statement that there was a man in a well dressed, tall, good looking, blonde man  in taxi with SS: 1997 

3. A man was seen with a girl fitting the description of Sarah Spiers in block of apartments in South Perth the morning after Sarah Spiers disappeared.

4. From letter to Post "Police have proof I did not abduct Sarah Spiers". • white shirt, black trousers, knew how to talk to women.
Guy in apartment block in South Perth.

5.  Long haired young man speaking to unidentified girl on video shot inside hotel just prior to CG disappearance.


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Claremont Murders - The Bunker
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1996 (August) Article "Fear of serial killer after body found in bush". Claims of 6 attacks on women in Claremont in 4 years. So 1992 to 1996 ...
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/claremont-murders-the-bunker.1208676/page-62
SimonSays77, Rookie, Jun 29, 2019

Other descriptions relating to Claremont:
Guys seen on security videos.
1997 (March 22) From article "Theories could hinder the hunt" West Australian.
• Long haired young man speaking to unidentified girl on video shot inside hotel just prior to CG disappearance.
•Blonde guy with bobbed hair about 24 y/o in Claremont saying his dad was a cop & offering lifts to women. Looked similar to the blonde guy seen on video footage speaking to JR according to Camille Maclean.
Guy in taxi with SS: 1997 (March 21) Steve Ross Ford taxi quoted on ABC Radio.• well dressed, tall, good looking, blonde man.
From letter to Post "Police have proof I did not abduct Sarah Spiers". • white shirt, black trousers, knew how to talk to women.

Other descriptions relating to Claremont:
Guys seen on security videos.
1997 (March 22) From article "Theories could hinder the hunt" West Australian.
• Long haired young man speaking to unidentified girl on video shot inside hotel just prior to CG disappearance.
•Blonde guy with bobbed hair about 24 y/o in Claremont saying his dad was a cop & offering lifts to women. Looked similar to the blonde guy seen on video footage speaking to JR according to Camille Maclean.
Guy in taxi with SS: 1997 (March 21) Steve Ross Ford taxi quoted on ABC Radio.• well dressed, tall, good looking, blonde man.
From letter to Post "Police have proof I did not abduct Sarah Spiers". • white shirt, black trousers, knew how to talk to women.
Guy in apartment block in South Perth


Plus there were four University Students that identified Jane Rimmer histhiking down Stirling Highway towards Perth, around the corner of Loch Street, Clarement at around 12.30 am the day Jane Rimmer was previously seen walking out of the Claremont Hotel down Bayview Terrace, Claremont at around 12pm,

http://awn.bz/ClaremontSerialKillerCSK.html

What happened to Jane Rimmer from 12.30 am on Sunday the 9th of June, 1996 onwards ...

and

why did the Western Australian Police and the media deliberately lie
to the Western Australian Public for 20 years about the last sighting of Jane Rimmer,
which was at around 12.30 am on Sunday the 9th of June, 1996 hitchhiking on Stirling Highway near Loch Street, Claremont, Western Australia...
was it because as witnesses have stated according to USA media investigators, that some members of the Western Australian polie Service were involved in picking up Jane Rimmer on Sunday Morning on Stirling Highway ... and these police officers have not come forward to say what they did with Jane Rimmer after they picked up Jane Rimmer on Sunday Morning on Stirtl#ing Highway ....  
after the four twenty-one year old uni students saw Jane Rimmer Hitchhiking on Stirling Highway
near Lock Street at around 12.30 am staggering as though she was quite drunk.
They were going to pick up Jane Rimmer but for some reason did not pick up Jane Rimmer
even though they commented to each other
that it  was a dangerous place to be hitchhicking at that hour of the morning

Below is the false statement that the police and all the Western Australian media
have stated to the public for the last 20 years about the last sighting of Jane Rimmer at 4 minutes past midnight on Sunday June 9th 1996 

"Sunday June 9, 1996: Childcare worker Jane Rimmer, 23, was last seen leaving Claremont’s Continental Hotel at 00.04am after a Saturday night out with friends. She was last seen standing outside Club Bay View after she declined a lift home with friends, with whom she had been drinking."


Her parents had expected their bubbly daughter for lunch that Sunday at their Wembley home.


However,  the true last sighting of Jane Rimmer was at around 12.30 am hitchhiking on Stirling Highway near Loch Street,Claremont,
which is going towards Perth from where Jane Rimmer had been at the Continental Hotel in Bay View Terrace
The corner of Loch Street and Stirling Highway from the
Continental Hotel in Bay View Terrace is only about 10 to 15 minutes walk.
The Uni Students   were driving back to near the Nedlands Uni after attending a 21st birthday party at the Claremont Yatch Club,
which is near the bottom of Bay View Terrace, Claremont.
They would have driven up Bay View Terrace from the Swan River direction, and turned right on the Stirling Highway,
towards Nedlands where  they lived near the University of Western Australia
So Jane Rimmer was hitchhiking towards Nedlands/Perth on the left side of the road if one was driving to Perth

Continental Hotel
Bay View  Terrace, Claremont
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?294704-Claremont-Serial-Killer-Media-Timelines-Photos-*NO-DISCUSSION*/page10
Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitchhiking - Student
Author:Andrew Clennell
Date: 19 June 1996
Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition.
Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitching - Uni Student says
Author: Andrew Clennell Date: 19th June, 1996
Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition
University student Emma Clayton and her friends almost picked up a blonde girl she is sure was Jane Rimmer early on the Sunday Morning Jane Rimmer disapeared.
Miss Clayton (21 years old uni student) said she saw the girl staggering along Stirling Highway, thumb out, hitching a lift at 12.30 am. Emma Clayton told police about the incident and her description of the cloths Jane was wearing matched that of a police description which had not been released to the media. Ms Clayton said she and her friends had been in Stirling Highway after leaving a 21st birthday party at Claremont Yacht Club. "Down near Lock Street we saw a girl Hitchhiking," she said. The Girl had her thumb out and we just slowed down and thought maybe we should pick her up but didn't." The conversation between the two couples in the car had been that she was a silly girl for trying to hitch in the area and they discussed whether they should pick the girl up. The decided at the last minute to move on. "we said of all places for a girl to be hitchhiking alone, this was probably the worst," Miss Clayton said. She said initially, after she had heard of Jane Rimmer's disappearance, she felt guilty that that hadn't picked her up. "If we had picked her up things would have been a lot different, " Miss Clayton said. When she and her friends saw the girl there were no other cars on the Stirling Highway ...


Previous logos for Telecom, later rebadged Telstra, tabled in court. (Supplied: Supreme Court of WA)

CLAREMONT: The Claremont Serial Killings PodcastGary AdsheadPerthNow
February 27, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-the-claremont-serial-killings-podcast-ng-b881120532z

​Three young women, all missing from the same place, all victims of a killer stalking the quiet streets. The West Australian’s veteran crime and investigative reporter Gary Adshead takes you inside the biggest criminal investigation in Australian history.
This is the true story of the Claremont Serial Killings.
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LATEST EPISODE
EPISODE 4
THE CASE AGAINST BRADLEY ROBERT EDWARDS

Second Police Statement from WA Media Head, Neil Stanbury:

Inspector Paul Ferguson,-Former Macro Taskforce boss, who was suddenly removed from being the boss of the Macro Task Force, when he stated publicly the the Claremont Serial Killer or Killers could be a Police Officer, a Taxi Driver, a Security Guard, or someone appearing to be one of these, and/or a well respected person, and asked for any possible theories to be provided ... it appears that there was a concern that  Inspector Paul Ferguson,-Former Macro Task Force boss, was getting to close to the truth and for that reason was quickly replaced by David John Caporn-who later because the Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner...

A photo of the Continental Hotel taken by police in February 1996. Continental Hotel CCTV captured Ciara Glennon entering the venue on March 14 1997, but did not capture her leaving.

A composite image of a person of interest compiled from a range of photographs related to the Claremont investigation. (Supplied: Supreme Court of WA)

Natasha Tracey-Ann Kendrick leaves court. 

Claremont killer trial LIVE: 'Jane refused to get in the taxi with us': Friend
By Heather McNeill and Hannah Barry
 December 11, 2019 

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-killer-trial-live-bradley-edwards-to-be-confronted-with-cctv-of-jane-and-ciara-s-last-moments-20191211-p53iwg.html 


11th November 2019 12.08pm
Macro taskforce detective being cross-examined

Detective Geary is now being cross-examined by Paul Yovich, who has pointed out the CCTV footage from the Claremont area on the dates the three women went missing has been reviewed a number of times over the years. 
In relation to The Continental Hotel footage on the night Ciara vanished, Mr Yovich is pointing out police put in "a great deal of effort" to locate Ciara on vision that night but were unable to find any footage of her from inside the venue because it was "full of people" and she "was not a tall person".
Police were only able to find a few seconds' footage of Ciara entering the venue around 11.38pm.
He's now moved onto the Operation Picnic covert camera on Bay View Terrace - which operated Thursday to Monday, between December 1996 to June 1997. 
Mr Yovich said the camera was operational the night Ciara went missing, but did not identify her.
The state alleges Ciara walked past the camera on her way to Stirling highway to catch a taxi.
Mr Yovich: You couldn't really identify people as to who they were from that footage?
"We couldn't identify her," Detective Geary said. 
Detective Geary said the main focus of the camera was to identify vehicle registrations. The quality of the footage has previously been described as very poor. 
Mr Yovich is now questioning how police determined the time-stamp at The Continental Hotel was accurate to within 30 seconds. 
He asked if that was determined by a phone call made to the venue by police on June 11, 1996, when an officer asked a bar manager if the CCTV was on time, and they responded it was 30 seconds out. 
Detective Geary has confirmed the phone call was the only information he had to go off, and that no independent testing had been done by police at the time. 
Mr Yovich claims on the night Jane vanished, there is a discrepancy in the time-stamps at The Continental Hotel and Club Bayview. 
He is now replaying some CCTV from Club Bayview, time-stamped 23:53:40, which shows Jane on the street talking to a man in a Russian hat.  


CCTV from outside The Continental Hotel - 200 metres up the road - shows Jane walking into shot outside the venue at 23:53:40.

Mr Yovich has also pointed out that during the review of the CCTV, there were "lots of people" who couldn't be identified. Detective Geary has agreed. 
Ms Barbagallo is asking if after Ciara vanished, if the CCTV time-stamps were checked for accuracy, and Detective Geary said they were checked and found to be accurate. 
He has been excused. 


11th November 2019  12.47pm

Jane Rimmer's Guess watch. She was last seen wearing it on the night of her abduction in June 1996.
'The horse spooked and threw me off right by Jane's body': Horse rider who found watch near bush grave
The cross erected at the location where Jane Rimmer's body was found in Wellard in 1996.CREDIT:NINE NEWS PERTH
Ms Barbagallo has indicated the next witness is being called "a little earlier" than planned.
His name is Paul Langenbach, 43, and he is appearing via video link.
Prosecutor Bradley Hollingsworth is questioning this witness.
Mr Langenbach said in June 1996 he sometimes visited Green Acres riding school in Wellard with his girlfriend, Catherine.
He is now being shown an aerial of Wellard and said the riding school was on the corner of Woolcoot Road.
The road is a dirt track road with bush either side.
"Back 23-odd years ago there was very minimal traffic up and down those roads ... we'd take the horses out for a bit of a hack, you could get out and quite happily go up and down the country roads without coming across vehicles," he said.
He said he was riding his horse on Sunday, June 9, 1996 with a friend, Tiffany, around 2pm.
"My horse spooked, threw me off and I actually ended up on Woolcoot Road," he said.
"Once I came to my feet I actually found a watch right at my feet.
"I showed Tiffany the watch I'd found and we proceeded to walk back to the school.
"It had a couple of scratches on it, the brand was Guess from memory.
"Once we got back to Green Acres we were met by my girlfriend ... I showed the watch to my girlfriend ... after that I basically popped it in my pocket and took it home with me."
He said in August he heard of Jane's body being found on Woolcoot Road.
"There was a cross erected on the road approximately where the body was found ... that's what prompted me down the track to realise where that cross was was the location where I found the watch," he said.
He said he contacted police and handed the watch over to them and then went to the area to show them where he located it.
Mr Yovich is now cross-examining Mr Langenbach, who is describing a "light-bulb" moment when he realised while watching a news report on Jane's body being found, that he had found a watch in the same area around two months earlier.
Mr Langenbach said while he at first told police the date he found the watch was June 16, he referred to his girlfriend's diary and realised it was June 9 and called police to correct his statement. The statement was corrected on August 15, 1996.


11th November 2019 1.08pm
Court is breaking for lunch

Court has adjourned for lunch. It will resume at 2.15pm with a new witness. 

11th November 2019  2.23pm
OBH bar manager from 1996 called to give evidence
The next witness is Jarrod Turner, who is appearing via video link from Queensland. 
The 52-year-old has white hair and a beard and is wearing a collared shirt. 
Prosecutor Tara Payne is questioning this witness. 
Mr Turner said he was employed at The Ocean Beach Hotel in Cottesloe from January 1996. 
"I was one of three bar managers," he said.
He said he recalled working the evening Jane disappeared, June 8, 1996. 
Jane visited the OBH at the beginning of her night before heading into Claremont. 
"I did see her yes, she was with a group of girls that I already knew ... I was very good friends with a couple of them," he said.
"There were about six of them [there that night], I knew a couple of them but not all of them, but I knew they always hung out together."
He recalls one of the group asked for a taxi to be called to go to Claremont.
"I think on this occasion I asked [Swan Taxis] to bring a bigger one, because there was a lot of them," he said. 
He recalls seeing the group leaving the venue in a taxi, but does not recall if it was a Swan Taxi, or where Jane was seated in the taxi. 
What vehicles Jane travelled in that day are relevant as the state alleges fibres found on her body came from a Holden Commodore VS Series 1, the same make and model car Mr Edwards drove at the time. 

 

11th November 2019  2.30pm
'Jane was happy on night she disappeared': Close friend

Jane Rimmer declined to come home with her friends on June 9, 1996.
Jane's friend Lynda Donovan has now been called to give evidence.
The 49-year-old has light grey hair, styled in a bob and is wearing a black and white patterned dress.
She said she met Jane through their work at a Nedlands childcare centre and that they lived in the same units in Wembley.
Ms Donovan is now recounting when she saw Jane on the day she disappeared.
She said she saw her at the units in the day and invited her out to dinner that evening at the OBH.
"I think we were having dinner at the OBH and she came in and found us where we were having dinner," she said.
"She was happy, she may have had a couple of beers beforehand so not drunk, but yeah, just happy.
"She had on jeans and a black long-sleeved shirt and a jacket over the top which I think was also black, pull-on boots and a [black] bag that came across the body.
"She had a silver bracelet on, her silver [Guess] watch, a chain with an amethyst crystal on it."
Ms Donovan said Jane sat with the group until they had finished their dinner and then they moved into the public bar.
She said she and Jane were drinking beer.
She is now talking about how the group caught a taxi to The Continental Hotel.
"I think Sian was in the front, or it might have been Ben because he was quite big, and all of us girls were sat in the back," she said.
She said she didn't recall the make or model of the car, other than it was a white sedan.
She said she's "just guessing" the taxi had brown vinyl seats in the back and that the taxi driver may have had an accent, "maybe Asian", and was not much older than her at the time.
She said she believes the taxi would have likely dropped the group at a taxi rank on Gugeri Street, across the road from The Continental Hotel.
She said the group had a few drinks and Jane was "pretty well on her way", adding, "most of us were by this stage".
"[We stayed] an hour, an hour and a half maybe," she said.
"I left [to go to Club Bayview] with Christine first and the others were going to catch up with us.
"[We left before the others because] we wanted to get in for free or something, Christine thought she might be able to do that."
She's now being shown CCTV footage of her and her friend Sian arriving at The Continental Hotel at 9.55pm.
While at The Continental Hotel, Ms Donovan and Jane went outside to talk at 10.39pm.
"She was upset so we were just talking," she said.
"She was just really sad and saying that she was ugly and fat and all those kinds of things, and I was just trying to comfort her and tell her that wasn't true."
Ms Donovan said she then returned to The Continental Hotel and began planning to go to Club Bayview with friends.
CCTV shows Ms Donovan walking down the venue's stairs towards the exit with Jane at 11.40pm. The pair meet up with their other friend Sian outside.
She said she and Christine left the group and walked ahead to Club Bayview.


 

11th November 2019  3.07pm
'She declined to get in the taxi with us': Jane's friend
Ms Donovan is now being shown CCTV footage of herself and Christine out the front and inside Club Bayview from 11.48pm.
She said the pair exited Club Bayview a few minutes after entering and CCTV showed her meeting up with Sian and Ben out the front on the street. 
"We all decided we didn't want to go to Club Bayview ... we were going to go home," she said. 
"We walked back up to where we knew there would be taxis [Gugeri Street] so we could catch one to go home."
Jane was with the group at this time. 
"[A taxi] just pulled into the taxi rank and we just got into it," she said.
"Jane had walked back across the road, she'd decided she didn't want to come with us.
"She just said she wasn't going to go home, she wanted to stay out.
"We got [the taxi driver] to pull around the corner onto Bay View Terrace and that was directly in front of the [Continental] Hotel and she was leaning against a pole there watching us come around the corner. 
"We wound down the windows and called to her, 'Get in the taxi, come on let's go', and she just shook her head and turned away. 
"We just kept driving, we said to the driver, 'Alright let's just go then'.
Ms Payne asked if Ms Donovan ever saw Jane again after that point and she shook her head.

 

11th November 2019  3.19pm
Jane's friend told police of man Jane argued with on night she was murdered
Mr Yovich is now cross-examining Ms Donovan and is asking about when she was first asked to describe the interior of the taxi that drove the group from the OBH to Claremont  saying it was a long time after the event. 
Mr Yovich said it wasn't until October 2018 she was asked about the taxi. 
She said in that statement "the taxi was a white sedan, this is all I can remember about the taxi".
Mr Yovich said prosecutors asked her to clarify some of her statement in September this year and she again said the same. 
During evidence earlier today, she said the interior of the taxi might have been brown, vinyl. 
Mr Yovich: Is that because you are really guessing about what the interior of the taxi was like?
Ms Donovan: Guessing and based on previous experience.
The state alleges it will produce evidence the upholstery from the taxi Jane and her friends took that night does not match that of the upholstery fibres found on Jane's body. 
The state alleges the fibres match a Holden Commodore VS Series 1 vehicle - the same make and model of car Mr Edwards drove at the time. 
Ms Donovan is now agreeing Jane was drunk that night, and was unsteady on her feet and bumping into people. 
Mr Yovich is now asking Ms Donovan about Jane and Sian having an argument with three men on the night Jane vanished, and that in her police statement at the time she said one of the men "worried her". 
Ms Donovan said she has since forgotten about the interaction. 
The witness has been excused. 


11th November 2019  3.30pm


CCTV outside of The Continental Hotel shows Jane Rimmer's last known movements to night she disappeared.

'Jane was feeling down about her appearance and crying just hours before she vanished': Friend

The next witness is another of Jane's friends who was with her the night she disappeared, Sian Chapman.
The 48-year-old has medium-length, brown hair and is wearing a black dress.
Ms Payne is now going through the same questions with Ms Chapman about the night Jane went missing, with Ms Chapman saying Jane met the group at the OBH before they headed into Claremont by taxi.
"The taxi arrived ... my recollection is it was a white sedan," she said. 
"The only thing that I remember is it was a brown, vinyl interior." 
She said the taxi driver was an Asian man, but couldn't remember his age, hair colour or clothing. 
"When we got out of the taxi Jane said, 'Thank you Mr Chong', so she was being a bit cheeky," Ms Chapman said. 
Ms Chapman is recalling when Jane became upset in the night, around 10.30pm.
"She was upset about something ... it was obvious she had been crying but I didn't ask," she said. 
Ms Donovan, in her evidence, said Jane was upset about feeling "ugly and fat" mid-way through their evening. 
She is now talking about when the group decided to call it a night and walked back past The Continental to line up in the Gugeri Street taxi rank. 
Jane is seen in CCTV tailing behind the rest of the group as they walk to the rank. 
"The five of us were [at the taxi rank] initially, we waited about 10 minutes and a couple of taxis went past but they didn't stop," she said.
"Jane was with us to start and then she decided not to wait any longer and she walked back towards The Continental Hotel.
"The taxi went around the corner and Lynda leaned out the taxi to Jane to tell her we were leaving and she should come with us. 
"Jane was standing outside the front doors of The Continental ... just leaning against a pole. 
"She didn't come in the car so we drove off."
Ms Chapman has agreed that was the last time she saw Jane. 
Mr Yovich is now asking about the first time Ms Chapman was asked about the details of the taxi the group took from the OBH to Claremont in 2018 - 22 years later. 
At the time she said she thought the vehicle may have been a sedan, but was unable to provide any further detail of the make or model, or its interior. 
In another statement from 2019, she said "the taxi we took from the OBH to the Claremont was a white taxi and I have a recollection of it having a brown interior, but I'm not sure why". 
She's agreed she is not confident her recollection is correct. 
The witness has been excused. 


11th November 2019  4.16pm
Justice Stephen Hall
Court has wrapped up for the day


Court has adjourned for the day. 
Justice Stephen Hall is now considering media requests for the CCTV of Jane and Ciara's final moments shown in court to be released. 
He has declined for two reasons. One, that there may be other witnesses called to refer to the footage, and two that the footage shows Jane and Ciara, and he does not want to cause their families any distress.
Ms Barbagallo said she has not discussed the issue with the families but will do so overnight. 
He has also declined to release the footage of the man at the BP vendor, as he said it has little relevance and is not a confirmed sighting of Mr Edwards.
He has also declined to release the photo of Mr Langenbach pointing to the area in Wellard where he found Jane's watch beside her memorial cross on the basis Mr Langenbach had little connection to the case.


A woman who dated the accused Claremont serial killer will give evidence at his trial that they visited a "heritage looking pub" in the area and repeatedly spoke about her safety after women vanished. (Supplied)

 "... The historical evidence clearly shows the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's and 1990's and also to some extent from the year 2000 onwards, has been a period in Perth, Western Australia where there was deeply rooted endemic police corruption, where well connected powerful Western Australian senior police,  such the late Bernie Johnson and the late Don Hancock,, plus many police who are still amongst the living, who were  part of what was known as the "Purple Circle", were involved in profiting in from criminal activity, who could easily get away with the most serious crimes, including murder, and who gave the Police Green Light to certain people to be able to commit any crime without fear of criminal investigation and/or prosecution, knowing that they would be protected by senior police in the Purple Circle  from their criminal activities being exposed. Besides all the private NYT's Investigation Files it has been publicly stated in open inquiries such as Inquest into the murder of  Brothel Madame, the late Shirley Finn, that senior Western Australian police officers the late Bernie Johnson and the late Don Hancock, were involved in the murder of Brothel Madame, the late Shirley Finn, as well as being in involved with profiting from illegal earnings made from prostitution income .... ....for instance the billionaire building magnate, the late Len Buckeridge committed assault on Ron Minshull on the driveway at 135 Glyde Street, Mosman Park in front of three witnesses and obvious and easily provable perjury in the Magistrates Court at a restraining order application, however Detective John Hancock stated that his senior officers would not allow Len Buckeridge to be arrested under any circumstances for any criminal offences....an inspector whom Ron Minshull visited to demand that the late Len Buckeridge be arrested for hitting Ron Minshull on the back of the head a hot rake, after serving a witness summons on Len Buckeridge, told Ron Mitshull and his friend that the only action the inspector  was prepared to take was '....I will ring Len at home tonight and tell Len to behave himself and not to hit anyone else again....'... one   of the late  Len Buckeridge's stand over employees stated his boss 'Len Buckeridge' was the most powerful man in Western Australia who could ring the then Western Australian Police Commissioner, Robert Falconer, up at 3 am any morning, and tell the Police Commissioner to jump ... and the Police Commission would have to reply ....' Len where do you want me to jump and how high!!!......."

An insider in Perth's Italian Criminal World who worked for the late Sam Franchina, known at the time as Perth's Italian Catholic Godfather, stated that the then Western Australian Police Commissioner, Robert Falconer (June 1994 to June 1999) arranged for convicted drug dealer Paolo Mussari who received a 15 year prison sentence in the 1980's for illegal drug importation,  an early prison release for for Paolo Mussari, so that Paolo Mussari could run a large illegal drug business for those that the then Western Australian Police Commissioner worked for, and worked with .. .then when Robert Falconer was about end his contract as the Western Australian Police Commissioner, ....he had Paolo Mussari arrested again for running a multi million illegal drug empire...After having regular Sunday barbeques, where Robert Falconer and his family and Paolo Mussari and his family were present (it is understood very conveniently were both living in the same street of the exclusive Perth beachside suburb of City Beach...... also it is noted that during Paolo Mussari's drug dealing charge trial in the 1980's .... hot headed Italian-Sicilian-born Paolo "Paul" Mussari jumped up while in the accused court dock, and pointed at the police detectives sitting in the front row of the court, who were the police detectives that arrested Paul Mussari for illegal drug dealing and yelled ... '... I accept and admit my business is dealing in illegal drugs, however these detectives have been my business partners for years in my illegal drug dealing business, so why aren't these police detectives charged with me for illegal drug dealing?.... ' ... of course the mainstream media reporters sitting in the court were never allowed to report this in West Australian Newspaper, the Sunday Times and/or on any the television networks.. .....it is in this background in mind ,that, investigations into the Claremont Serial Killings should and must be completed and understood .... how a number of attempted rapes, actual rapes, abductions and murders of females could happen over a 20 plus year period, in a fairly small close-knit-community of Perth, Western Australia where it would have been almost impossible for a number of serious crimes such abductions and murders, large scale illegal drug dealing to be happening without a number of people knowing including one or more of the police involved with the Criminal World having a reasonable idea who is either behind and/or involved in such serious criminal activities ... it seems rather odd and bizare that  Bradley Robert Edwards, being a self confessed attempted rapist in 1990 was not immediately flagged up as a likely person of interest when Sarah Spiers vanished into thin air, then flagged up again when Jane Rimmer disappeared .... then again when Ciara Glennon disappeared " ....the NYT Investigation Team

Violent attacker is suspect in murders
LUKE ELIOT

Monday, November 07, 2011
Donald Morey
A street prostitute who narrowly survived a brutal bashing at the hands of a sexual deviant who is suspected of being involved in two unsolved suspected murders says she is still haunted by the chilling attack and believes her assailant may have killed other women.
In her first media interview since the December 2003 attack, the woman, who did not want her name published, described crawling through a swamp and scaling a 2.4m high concrete wall in a bid to escape.
"I know there are other girls who aren't as lucky as I was," the woman said.
In September 2005, career criminal Donald Victor Morey was convicted after trial of attempted murder.
In handing down a 13-year jail term, Supreme Court Justice Geoffrey Miller accepted the prosecutor's submission that there was no sexual motive to Morey's crime as he was impotent at the time.
"This woman was a random target and . . . it was predatory conduct on your part," Justice Miller said. "It was a premeditated offence, that you planned to take her to a remote area and it was not the case that you voluntarily desisted from what you were doing."
Morey's appeals were dismissed and he remains behind bars.
He is a suspect in the murder of Darylyn Meridith Ugle, a prostitute who was last seen alive while soliciting for sex in March 2003, and to the disappearance of Sarah McMahon, a 20-year-old Parkerville woman who has not been seen leaving her Claremont workplace exactly 11 years ago today. Her vehicle was found at Swan District Hospital. Morey denies involvement in both cases but admits he knew Ms McMahon.
Ms Ugle's body was found in April 2003 near Mundaring Weir - a short distance from Morey's Chidlow home and from the Helena Valley street where he took his December 2003 victim. The two prostitutes knew each other.
"We don't think it is going to happen to us but I didn't put two and two together," the prostitute who escaped said.
"I'm not a dumb girl. I have good instincts and he was good enough to make me go against my instincts."
She said she felt uneasy getting into Morey's car that night in December 2003 but accepted $900 to have sex with him.
"I think he might have panicked because I realised he was going around in circles," she said.
"He calmly pulled his car over to the side of the road and he already had rope wrapped around his hand when he turned his car off."
Morey tried to place the rope over the woman's neck but she put her back against the passenger door and repeatedly kicked him.
"I fell out backwards and hit the kerb with my back," she said.
"He dived out over the top of me and I got him in the face with my feet. I think that dazed him a little bit. I crawled to the back of the car and he followed me.
"He was punching into me for about 15 minutes and I was screaming. I climbed on to the back of his car . . . to try not to let him get me back into the car again."
The woman managed to climb a high wall and stumble through a swampy area.
"I was screaming," she said. Morey eventually got back in his car and drove off.
The woman said the attack changed her life.
"I couldn't walk out in the street at night," she said.

"If I see someone who looks like him I jump a little, even though I know he is in jail."

​DECEMBER 14 2012
McMahon mystery deepens as key statement is recanted
 Rania Spooner
The truth of what happened to 20-year-old Sarah McMahon, who vanished more than a decade ago, appears more elusive than ever after a key witness into her suspected death recanted part of a crucial statement she allegedly told police last year.
Following three police investigations spanning 12 years, an inquest was launched in Perth this week in an attempt to uncover more information about what happened to Ms McMahon.
Natasha Tracey-Ann Kendrick leaves court. 
The special crime squad of the WA Police force, tasked with investigating unsolved cases, finally appeared to have unearthed new information in November 2011.A former prostitute, who had already been interviewed twice over the disappearance, changed her version of what happened the night Ms McMahon disappeared in November 2000.Natasha Tracey-Ann Kendrick, now 50, who at the time believed she was dying from liver failure, allegedly told police she had been called to a friend's house that night and saw the body of a woman she believed was Ms McMahon.
The pair had met some weeks earlier at the same house where her friend - the homeowner - had taken on a lodger who would later be convicted of attempted murder over an unrelated case, the Coroner's Court heard.Ms McMahon who lived with her family in Parkerville in Perth's Hills, was last seen leaving her Claremont workplace on November 8, 2000.She had enrolled in a Bachelor of Arts at Murdoch University that year but by September had suspended her studies as she battled with depression and drug use, her sister Amanda Smith told the inquest.
She was also dealing with a difficult break-up, according to her sister.Through the church where her parents were long-standing members Ms McMahon had secured a part-time job working in administration - she disappeared after finishing her second shift.As she drove away from work, the last phone call Ms McMahon ever answered was from Donald Morey - a man 25 years older her senior who has since been convicted of attempting to strangle a prostitute to death, the inquest heard,At the time, Morey was living with his boss Gareth Allen in Marangaroo - although he had a home in Chidlow he shared with this de facto partner on the weekends, the Coroner's Court heard.In the statement Ms Kendrick recanted on Thursday, she had claimed she helped clean up Mr Allen's house after seeing a woman's body in Morey's room the night of Ms McMahon's disappearance.
Despite being played a secretly recorded conversation with her brother taken the day after she gave her statement in which she says her "conscience is clear" and she's "done something positive", she now maintains she never saw a body.
Ms Kendrick told the Coroner's Court she had been on drugs, and was "scared" and "confused" when she gave the statement to police last year.In his evidence, Mr Allen described the entire statement as "lies" and offered to do a lie detector test to prove he never called Ms Kendrick to his house that night and that there was never a body.He also maintains he wasn't even at home."I had it read to me by the coppers and I laughed ," Mr Allen said of the statement."I told them 'that's a beautiful story but it ain't true' "He said Morey took Ms McMahon and her sister over to Mr Allen's house on one occasion before her disappearance and had referred to her as "his new girl," he told the court.The afternoon Ms McMahon disappeared, Morey had asked to borrow a truck from Mr Allen to go and see "Sarah", Mr Allen said."That's who I presumed it was - I'm pretty sure he said Sarah or the young girl," he said."I imagine he hoped for sex."Knowing him - without a doubt."But Mr Allen maintained he never saw Ms McMahon and could not say whether the truck was returned that night.Several months after Ms McMahon's disappearance, Mr Allen's wife, Marta Allen, had contacted police about a black bag that belonged to Morey, which was discovered when he was in hospital for chest pains in March 2001, the Coroner's Court heard.Mr Allen said the bag contained graphic pornography involving people "dressed up like they were dead" that he "could not even look at".It also contained gaffer tape, rope and knives, he said."Marta came to me and said I need to go to the police and I told her to follow her heart," he said.But before the police came to look at the bag - days later - Morey's partner had come and taken it away, he said.

Morey, who is currently serving 13 years jail for attempted murder, is expected to give evidence on Friday.He has consistently denied any knowledge of what happened to Ms McMahon. The inquest continues.

Coroner says missing woman Sarah McMahon was murder victim
http://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/coroner-says-missing-woman-sarah-mcmahon-was-murder-victim/news-story/d64ef5cdd62f86daf5f6034797190448             
JANUARY 18, 2013 Angie RaphaelAAP
THE West Australian coroner has found that a 20-year-old woman missing for more than 12 years was a victim of a homicide, but has refused to rule on whether a suspect in the case was involved in the crime.
Sarah Anne McMahon disappeared on November 8, 2000 after telling a colleague she was meeting a friend at 5.30pm and then failing to pick up her sister at 8.30pm that evening.
Donald Victor Morey, 57, has long been considered a suspect in her disappearance and was the last person to speak to Ms McMahon before she disappeared.
After the initial police investigation drew a blank, a further investigation was launched after Morey was convicted of the attempted murder of a Perth prostitute in 2004 and sentenced to 13 years in prison.
He had also been a person of interest in the death of another prostitute the previous year.
However, police were again unable to substantiate enough evidence against Morey, who has consistently denied any involvement in Ms McMahon's disappearance.
A cold case review of both investigations was launched last year and Morey said he was still in contact with Ms McMahon, who he claimed was living in Canada with her two children.
Coroner Alastair Hope said on Thursday that because Ms McMahon had not contacted her loved ones in more than 12 years, he was confident she was dead.
"The circumstances in which Ms McMahon disappeared are sinister and I have confidently been able to exclude the possibility that she died by way of natural causes, accident or suicide,'' he said.
 "In my view, the evidence points overwhelmingly to the proposition that she died by way of unlawful homicide.''
Mr Hope said there was no evidence that Ms McMahon left the country and there were no records held in Medicare, Centrelink, the Australian Taxation Office, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade or her bank that would suggest that she was alive in Australia after that time.


A key piece of evidence examined at the inquest was a statement from Natasha Tracy-Ann Kendrick, dated November 11, 2011.
In her statement, Ms Kendrick said she walked into Morey's room and saw a bloodied naked girl on the bed with an "old fashioned rope'' around her neck.
Ms Kendrick claimed that she later saw Morey carrying ``something wrapped in a quilt over his left shoulder'' and said she knew it was McMahon's body.
However, Mr Hope noted that police were unable to find evidence to corroborate her account.
He said there was also evidence capable of supporting a conclusion that Morey lied to police about his movements on November 8, 2000 and falsified documents to support those lies.
"It is always possible that some further evidence may come to light which could result in criminal charges being laid at some later date,'' he said.
"In that context, I do not propose to make any finding in relation to Mr Morey's involvement.''
Originally published as Missing woman 'a murder victim'


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/how-many-of-perths-missing-and-murdered-women-fell-prey-to-serial-killers/news-story/0c2ef54e364745c7c0582b4e60685a91

How many of Perth’s missing and murdered women fell prey to serial killers? JANUARY 17, 2017

IT’S one of the most remote cities on earth, yet no less than four serial killers and suspected serial killers have chosen Perth as their hunting ground since the 1980s.
The arrest of a man in connection with the most notorious of them all — the Claremont murders — has renewed interest in Western Australia’s other unsolved cases. And there are many.
Over the past four decades, dozens of women and girls have disappeared from the Perth area. A handful have turned out to be murdered but the vast majority have never been found.
Some of these cold cases are being rexamined for possible links to other unsolved cases, while others bear the hallmarks of solved murders and notoriously violent criminals.
The waters have been muddied thanks to some major screw ups by the Western Australian Police, who have developed a reputation for collaring the wrong man (Andrew Mallard, the Mickelburg brothers and John Button to name a few) while the real killers roamed free, and in some cases struck again.

The town of Claremont has feared there may be a serial killer in their midst since the deaths of Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997.
Speculation about other serial killers has been rife for years as police, amateur sleuths and journalists chip away at WA’s growing list of unsolved crimes.

Two cases which have come up again and again are those of Julie Cutler and Kerry Turner, who vanished in 1988 and 1991 respectively.
Ms Turner’s decomposed remains were found near Canning Dam four weeks after she disappeared. Ms Cutler’s upturned car was found in the surf off Cottesloe Beach two days after she was last seen but her body has never been recovered.
The parents of both Ms Cutler and Ms Turner believe their daughters may have fallen prey a serial killer and have appealed to detectives to investigate possible links.
Just before Christmas, police charged Bradley Robert Edwards with the abduction and murders of Ms Glennon and Ms Rimmer.

The 48-year-old Telstra technician and amateur photographer was arrested after cold case detectives allegedly linked DNA from Ms Glennon to a 1995 rape at Perth’s Karrakatta Cemetery and a kimono linked to the scene of a 1988 assault on a sleeping teenager in Huntingdale.
Mr Edwards faces two counts of deprivation of liberty, two counts of aggravated sexual penetration without consent, one count of breaking and entering and one count of indecent assault with respect to the earlier cases.

The investigation regarding 18-year-old Sarah Spiers, who also disappeared from Claremont in 1996 but whose body has never been found, remains open. Mr. Edwards has not been charged with any offences in relation to Ms Spiers.

Former Telstra technician Bradley Robert Edwards, 48, with ex-wife Catherine Geneste. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied
IN an unrelated case, police are investigating the disappearance and suspected murder of 20-year-old Sarah McMahon in 2000, the murder of street worker Darylyn Ugle, 25, in 2003 and to numerous missing persons cases involving prostitutes.
Ms McMahon was not a prostitute. A 2013 inquest into her death heard that one man was a person of interest in both Ms McMahon’s disappearance and Ms Ugle’s murder and heard evidence that at least one of his associates feared he was a “serial killer”.
Serial killers David and Catherine Birnie murdered four of the five women they abducted over a period of just five weeks in 1986.
Their murder victims were Mary Neilson, 22, Noelene Patterson, 31, Denise Brown, 21 and Susannah Candy.
It is feared, however, that many more women and girls fell prey to the twisted couple.
They include 12-year-old Lisa Mott, who vanished in 1980, 33-year-old Cheryl Renwick, who was last seen in May 1986 and Barbara Western, 38, who vanished a month later.

Claremont serial killings trial: Huntingdale victim details struggle after waking to find Bradley Robert Edwards on top of her
AAP  December 6, 2019
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-huntingdale-victim-details-struggle-after-waking-to-find-bradley-robert-edwards-on-top-of-her-ng-b881404198z
The woman who was attacked by the accused Claremont serial killer in her bedroom says he stopped when she told him she loved him, thinking the man straddling her back may have been her boyfriend.
Bradley Robert Edwards recently pleaded guilty to deprivation of liberty during a break-in at Huntingdale in Perth's southeast in 1988, but denies murdering Sarah Spiers, 18, Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997.
The victim testified in the Western Australia Supreme Court on Friday, saying her boyfriend, who is now her husband, was upset when he left her family's home after they spent Valentine's Day together.
So when she woke that night, feeling someone on top of her as she lay on her stomach, she thought it may have been him or even her brothers playing a prank.
She tried to push up but couldn't.
"There was no noise but then a hand came over my mouth," she said.
"I said 'it's OK, I won't scream'.
"Another hand came on to the back of my head and was pushing."
She said she didn't panic, thinking it was her partner and that he covered her mouth so she wouldn't wake her parents, getting them both into trouble.
"I was trying to work out what was happening, shaking my head from side to side.
"I said 'what are you doing' and 'let me go' at some point."
She said she could feel him reach behind himself, then he tried to cover her mouth with a piece of cloth, but she managed to say "I love you".
"He stopped what he was doing," the woman, now 50, told the court.
She felt pressure from his body ease off, so she reached up to stroke his face "in a tender sort of way", still believing it could be her boyfriend, but knew he was clean shaven that day and instead felt stubble.
"So I dug my fingernail in as hard as I could," she said.
He lifted himself off her, she heard the patter of his feet on the ground and she braced, putting a hand over her head because she thought he would hit her.
When nothing happened, she turned her head to see who was there and saw a tall man standing in the doorway - wearing a women's nightie.
For "half a heartbeat" they stared at each other before she hammered on the wall to alert her parents, shouting: "Dad, dad, dad!"
"He took off."
The former Telstra technician, who lived in the area and knew the woman, left behind knotted black stockings, a piece of fabric and a silk kimono, which is central to the case.
That was separate from the nightie he wore, which the woman described as long sleeved and white, "similar to what my mother wore".
Edwards fidgeted in the dock when she testified and took some notes, with his pen tethered to his desk.
The accused, who turns 51 on Saturday, also recently admitted abducting and twice raping a 17-year-old girl he dragged through Karrakatta cemetery in 1995.

David John Caporn-Former Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner-who was previously in charge of the Macro Task Force set up to  investigate the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings,  had to quickly resign from the Western Australian Police Force to stop an internal police investigation into his involvement senior DPP Prosecutor Kenneth Bates, in the presentation of misleading evidence and withholding  material evidence at the trial of Andrew Mallard. 
Andrew Mallard was charged with the murder Pamela Lawrence in Mosman Park, Perth, Western Australia, who had his murder conviction quashed by the High Court of Australia, and was awarded  around $4 million in compensation for wrongfully having to spend 12 years in prison for a murder he did not commit, and now a few years later was mysteriously killed in Los Angeles in November, 2019 by a Hit and Run Driver ... questions are being as if those that were upset with Andrew Mallard winning his High Court Appeal, arranged for Andrew Mallard to be killed in Los Angeles by a Hit and Run Driver. David John Caporn-Former Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner spent his time as the head of the Macro Task Force making sure the resources of the Macro Task Force were spend on investigating people who were in the end rules out as suspects in the Claremont Serial Killings

 "Devils Garden ....The Darkest Side of Perth"
http://www.wikipediaexposed.org/claremont_serial_killings.html
"Devils Garden ....The Darkest Side of Perth"
A new film is being produced called "Devils Garden... The Darkest Side of Perth",

which will publicly expose that Police Corruption in Western Australia ran rife from  the 1950's to 2016 and continuing, with a corrupt section of police being involved in committing crimes, in condoning criminal activity and protecting certain people from being investigated and prosecuted for crimes that they committed... there were people like the late billionaire building magnate, Len Buckeridge who were given the green light to commit what ever crimes they wanted, including murder, assault, rape fraud, robbery etc.. these people were given what they called 
"the Green Light" by Police to commit whatever crimes they wanted without fear of investigation or prosecution ...
There is also a new books coming out this year  "Living Next Door To A Psychopath" and "The Darkest Side of Perth" and a previous book called "Devil's Garden"ISBN: 978174664669 published by Random House in 2007 by  well known Queensland Crime writer Debi Marshall with an in depth investigation into the Claremont Serial Killings and various miscarriages of justice in Western Australia policing and prosecution... and the controversial series of books  entitled "The Triumph of Truth ( Who Is Watching The Watchers?) written in the 1990's which were illegal and clandestinely removed from the Western Australia Alexander Resource Reference Library in about the year 2000, which the film "Devils Garden... The Darkest Side of Perth" takes material from .....
The 1960's American TV Police and Crime Series Called Dragnet used to say at the beginning of each episode ... " These are true stories from Police and FIB files, however the true names have been changed to protect the innocent..."
The film  being produced called "Devils Garden... The Darkest Side of Perth",  is a set of true stories about  police and prosecutors in Perth, Western Australia being involved in committing crimes and covering up for criminals who have committed serious crimes, and deliberately charging people who they know have not committed the crime they have been charged for ..... which  will leave all the true names  exposed and shame the guilty ....
One of the producers of the film "Devils Garden... The Darkest Side of Perth" stated .....
 "... there seems no doubt that the Western Australian Police are not going to properly investigate and charge all the real Claremont Serial Killers and those that helped carry out these most serious crimes and helped for over 20 years, cover up those responsible for such serious crimes .... so the film will in effect bring the truth to light so at least the parents, families and friends of the victims and the general public can get to know the truth.... the problem is that a proper police investigation and inquiry would lead investigators too close to their own ranks and powerful business people and politicians who were either involved or know who are involved and are prepared to help cover the truth up..."

One of the producers of the film "Devils Garden... The Darkest Side of Perth" further stated .....
".... the NYT.bz investigation report into the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings which we are using as part of the information supporting the story presented in the our film shows clearly that the arrest and the $200 million plus cost of the prosecution of Bradley Robert Edwards as the alleged sole Claremont Serial Abductor and Killer, who, without any help or protection from others ....  is to satisfy the general public that the Claremont Serial Killer has been caught, and that there is no need to look any further for anyone involved in the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings ..... regardless of any possible alleged involvement of Bradley Robert Edwards  in the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings ........ they is no doubt from the evidence from various sources, including a statement from Sarah Anne McMahon who was last seen in November, 2000… that other more powerful and well connected people in Perth, Western Australia ... including Western Australian Police have been involved in  the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings and also the covering up of the the real truth behind  the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings ...... our film will attempt to set the public record straight ..... we are expecting threats on our lives for producing this provocative film .... and or legal action to try and stop it been shown to the public ... however ... regardless of these expected reactions the film has to be made and the truth has to be told to the public ..... it seems that not even the solicitors and barristers representing Bradley Robert Edwards are interested in knowing the truth that will help in defending their client Bradley Robert Edwards who has been charged and accused of the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders  …when Sarah Anne McMahon provided her statement as to her personal knowledge as to who was involved in the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings ..which she stated included Julie Culter …. Sarah Anne McMahon was asked whether she wanted a copy of her statement to be provided to the authorities so the truth is known to the authorities…. the reply from Sarah Anne McMahon was that the followowing   ‘ If my statement about who was involved in the  the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings was provided to the police … I would be dead in a week … these people are simply too powerful…so please hold my statement and information until I am out of Australia and living safely in another country ….’ these words spoken by  Sarah Anne McMahon are ringing in the ears of the NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team …because the information presented at the Coroner’s Inquest into the disappearance of Sarah Anne McMahon has led the State Coronor Alastair Neil Hope, State Coroner, to the following conclusion …….
‘Sarah McMahon was 20 years of age when she disappeared on the afternoon of Wednesday 8 November 2000. She was reported missing on the following day by her mother and there have been no reliable sightings of her since that time. I find that she died on or about 8 November 2000. As indicated above, the circumstances in which Ms McMahon disappeared are sinister and I have confidently been able to exclude the possibility that she died by way of natural causes, accident or suicide. In my view the evidence points overwhelmingly to the proposition that she died by way of Unlawful Homicide. As her body has not been located I am unable to determine how she died.’…. "


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Claremont serial killings trial podcast: ‘Ten Seconds of Terror’PerthNow
December 3, 2019 

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killer-trial-podcast-ten-seconds-of-terror-ng-b881401062z

​​It was massive day in court, with eight witnesses taking the stand, including the woman who was attacked from behind by the accused Claremont Serial Killer Bradley Robert Edwards in 1990, who spoke about her ordeal publicly for the first time.
He pleaded guilty and was convicted on common assault.
As Natalie Bonjolo, Tim Clarke and Alison Fan discuss, her testimony was animated and detailed, and she recounted the terrifying ordeal — now known as "The Hollywood Hospital Incident" — like it was yesterday, the day she said she thought she was going to die.
For the first time, it was revealed that Western Australian Police were looking into Telstra vehicles as early as July 1996, just a month after Jane Rimmer went missing and before Ciara Glennon was murdered.
The court also heard from three other women, known as 'The Telstra Living Witnesses', who the prosecution say had close encounters with a man in a white van driving around Cottesloe and Claremont picking up vulnerable women.

David John Caporn-Former Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner-who was previously in charge of the Macro Task Force set up to  investigate the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings,  had to quickly resign from the Western Australian Police Force to stop an internal police investigation into his involvement senior DPP Prosecutor Kenneth Bates, in the presentation of misleading evidence and withholding material evidence at the trial of Andrew Mallard. 

​David John Caporn-Former Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner-who was previously in charge of the Macro Task Force set up to  investigate the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings,  had to quickly resign from the Western Australian Police Force to stop an internal police investigation into his involvement senior DPP Prosecutor Kenneth Bates, in the presentation of misleading evidence and withholding material evidence at the trial of Andrew Mallard. 

Jane Rimmer

Con Bayens, former head of a WA prostitution taskforce, says he could have met the Claremont killer

 Claremont murders trial enters fourth week
AAP  - Sunday, 15 December 2019
https://7news.com.au/politics/law-and-order/claremont-murders-trial-enters-fourth-week-c-607239
Prosecutors say Bradley Edwards' DNA was found on a silk kimono left at the scene of an attack. Credit: AAP
The final civilian witnesses are about to be heard in the Claremont serial killings trial, with DNA and fibre evidence set to dominate next year's hearings.
The Western Australia Supreme Court last week heard the lengthy proceedings had progressed faster than expected, so will not sit on Thursday and Friday, as previously scheduled, before a two week festive season recess.

When the trial returns on January 6, expert witnesses will be called.
Prosecutors say his DNA was found on a silk kimono he left behind after attacking a sleeping woman in her Huntingdale home in 1988, and on a teenager he abducted and raped in a cemetery in 1995 - crimes he confessed to in October.
They also say his DNA was recovered from under Ciara Glennon's fingernails.
But he maintains he didn't kill the 27-year-old solicitor in 1997, and 18-year-old secretary Sarah Spiers and 23-year-old Jane Rimmer in 1996.
Fibre evidence is another major part of the prosecution case.
It is alleged fibres from his Telstra-issued trousers were found on Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon, who were dumped in bushland at opposite ends of Perth, and on the rape victim.
Prosecutors also say fibres from the same make and model as Edwards' work car were found on Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon.
They argue the seriousness of Edwards' offending escalated over time and the murders coincided with key moments in the breakdown of his first marriage, which unravelled after he became distant and his wife had an affair.
The 51-year-old also has a conviction for attacking a woman at Hollywood Hospital in 1990.
The defence has suggested some DNA exhibits were contaminated and fibre evidence may also be tainted.

Claremont serial killings trial hears graphic details of Karrakatta Cemetery rape by Bradley Edwards
 By Andrea Mayes
9th November, 2019
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-09/bradley-edwards-karrakatta-rape-victim-testifies-claremont-trial/11780220 
Key points:
The girl was attacked by Bradley Edwards a year before Sarah Spiers went missing
Edwards pleaded guilty to the rape charges before his murder trial began
The graphic testimony caused a woman to flee the courtroom while sobbing

PHOTO: The girl was abducted and taken to Karrakatta Cemetery where she was violently attacked. (ABC: Emma Wynne
A 17-year-old girl who was abducted and raped in a Perth cemetery by alleged Claremont serial killer Bradley Edwards said she was so terrified during her ordeal, she thought she was going to die.
"I kept my eyes closed a lot of the time because I was very frightened," she said.
"I thought I was going to die."
'I can't believe this is happening'
Edwards then carried her to a nearby vehicle, likely a van, tying her ankles together and putting a cotton bag over her head before driving for about 25-30 minutes and stopping the vehicle.

He carried her out then dropped her on the ground, and began dragging her through the dirt.
Key points:
The girl was attacked by Bradley Edwards a year before Sarah Spiers went missing
Edwards pleaded guilty to the rape charges before his murder trial began
The graphic testimony caused a woman to flee the courtroom while sobbing

A number of statements from the woman, whose name has been suppressed, were read by state prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo SC at Edwards's WA Supreme Court trial on Monday.


Warning: This story contains graphic content that may be upsetting
Edwards, 50, a former Telstra technician, is charged with the wilful murders of Sarah Spiers, 18, Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27.
He was originally charged with a total of eight offences, including three charges relating to the rape of the teenager as well as an attack on another teenager in Huntingdale in 1988.
But he pleaded guilty just weeks before the trial began to all but the murder charges.

Grabbed while walking home
The statements were given to police in the days, weeks and years after the attack at Perth's Karrakatta Cemetery on February 11, 1995 — a year before Ms Spiers was allegedly abducted and murdered.
The woman said she was walking home from Club Bay View, the same venue Ms Spiers last visited before she vanished, when she was grabbed from behind by a man.
Ms Spiers was last seen shortly after leaving the same Claremont nightclub on January 27, 1996.
The 17-year-old described walking along Gugeri Street and then along a path that ran through nearby Rowe Park when the man suddenly seized her.
He threw her to the ground and straddled her while he tied her wrists together behind her back, before stuffing what felt like a thick woollen sock into her mouth.
She began crying but closed her eyes, believing it was better if her attacker thought she had not seen him.
"I initially tried to struggle, but given the size of the man who assaulted me I thought it would be safer not to," she said.
She described her attacker as heavily built, about 185 centimetres tall and Caucasian, with straight, brown hair.
"I kept my eyes closed a lot of the time because I was very frightened," she said.
"I thought I was going to die."
'I can't believe this is happening'

Edwards then carried her to a nearby vehicle, likely a van, tying her ankles together and putting a cotton bag over her head before driving for about 25-30 minutes and stopping the vehicle.
He carried her out then dropped her on the ground, and began dragging her through the dirt.
Too scared to scream or cry out, the woman gave a graphic description of being raped by Edwards.
"I just know that I felt a lot of pain," she said.
"I remember repeating, 'Oh my God, I can't believe this is happening to me'.
"I didn't scream, I just froze basically."
A woman watching proceedings in the public gallery of the courtroom got up and fled from the room sobbing as the statement was being read out.

A desperate search for help
The woman said she kept her eyes closed even after Edwards pulled the bag off her head, because she wanted him to think she was unconscious.
After the attack, he picked the teenager up and threw her into some bushes about 8 metres away.
Edwards finally left in his vehicle and when the girl opened her eyes and got up, she realised she was in the cemetery.
Walking out onto the road, she could see houses nearby but did not approach them, because she "didn't trust a stranger".
Naked from the waist down and with her hands still bound, she tried desperately to cover herself with the denim vest she had been wearing as she ran along the street searching for help.
She came to a nursing home and found a phone on the outside of the building, before managing to knock the receiver off its cradle and dial numbers with her chin.
When a woman eventually picked up and asked where she was, she was unable to say, so she ran off towards the road.
The phone call a parent dreads
Edwards's victim eventually found a public phone box, calling the operator and making a reverse-charge call to her parents' home, where her father answered.
In a witness statement tendered to the court, he said his daughter was "crying hysterically" as she begged him to pick her up.
"She said, 'I was taken by a man and tied up and left at the cemetery'," he said.
The teenager then ran to nearby Hollywood Hospital and banged on a glass door, where she could see a nurse.
"I was hysterical," she said.
The nurse let her in and helped her after she told her she had been raped, and her parents and the police arrived soon after.
"[My daughter] was panicky and extremely distressed and sobbing," her father said.
She asked him to remove the cord that was still partially tied around her with a very tight knot, which he untied "with difficulty".
The cord was about 4 metres long and he said he thought it was a "Telecom extension cord".

The trial, before Justice Stephen Hall, continues.
RELATED STORY: When police hunting a serial killer sought 'living witnesses', they found an alleged Telstra link
RELATED STORY: There's a big hurdle prosecutors must overcome to convict Bradley Edwards of Sarah Spiers's murder
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Claremont serial killings trial: Women saw Telstra car circling Claremont
AAP December 3, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-women-saw-telstra-car-circling-claremont-ng-b881401141z
A Telstra vehicle similar to this Holden Commodore wagon was reported a number of times after a male driver picked up, or offered rides to young women around Claremont between 1995 and 1997. Credit: Supplied
The Claremont serial killings trial has heard from women who mistook a Telstra vehicle for a taxi around the time of the three murders.
Ex-Telstra employee Bradley Robert Edwards, 50, is on trial in the Western Australia Supreme Court, accused of murdering Sarah Spiers, 18, Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997.
Natalie Clements, 47, said on Tuesday she saw a car go by five times in about two hours one night in 1996.
It drove past the Ocean Beach Hotel twice, then when the group was walking towards a train station she saw what she thought was a taxi and tried to hail it.
But it was a white station wagon with a Telstra logo.
“I said ’no, I didn’t need a lift’ and they kept going,” she said.
The same car drove past two more times until they eventually found a taxi.
Jane Ouvaroff, 47, testified she also hailed a station wagon mistakenly thinking it was a taxi in late 1996 or early 1997, and believed the same car had driven past her minutes earlier.
“When I sat down, I looked at the dashboard and recognised that it wasn’t a taxi,” she said.
She said she did not feel threatened or unsafe, but got the driver to stop by saying she had left her shoes at a park.
She got out and retrieved her shoes - along with two male friends - then returned to the car, which she noticed had a Telstra logo and tools in the boot.
Trilby Winsome Smith, 42, testified she and a friend got into a white “electrical van” while hitchhiking in 1996.
“I got into the back of it and noticed there was a lot of cables,” she said.
Ms Smith said her friend was sitting in the front and talking to the driver, then suddenly opened the door and “yanked” her out.
She said the van had no “obvious signage”.

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1996 (August) Article "Fear of serial killer after body found in bush". Claims of 6 attacks on women in Claremont in 4 years. So 1992 to 1996 ...

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/claremont-murders-the-bunker.1208676/page-62
SimonSays77, Rookie, Jun 29, 2019
Does anyone have descriptions of POIs not listed here, details of other attacks nearby or other attacks with the same descriptions or attributes?
 1996 (August) Article "Fear of serial killer after body found in bush".
Claims of 6 attacks on women in Claremont in 4 years.

So 1992 to 1996 & perhaps these:

1. Subway (January 1994) Article "Woman knees attacker". Gugeri/Stirling red light, dragged from car. Escaped.
• 1.8m, slim stringy build, blonde hair cropped in a skin head cut on top & long at the back. Faded jeans, long sleeve blue fleecy top, black running shoes, around 25yr

2. Broken ankle/2 man Taxi (October 1994) CBV to Princess Road. Man couched in back grabbed her. Escaped

3. Rape (before 1995) possibly Coles Loading Dock. Woman taunted by phone afterwards.Called police again after BRE arrest.

4. KK. (February 1995) • 183cm tall (6'1") medium to solid build, dark collar length hair driving a light coloured panel van. Released naked.

5. Golf Course/Taxi (1995) picked up from Claremont stripped of clothes. Escaped.

6. Church Lane Attack (March 1996Article "Hunt after sex attack outside club". Bashed head, tore skirt, discovered shirt on backwards later. Fought & escaped. Article "Hunt after sex attack outside club".
•Long sleeved denim shirt, dark jeans, 25yrs old, medium stocky build, Caucasian with dark features and dark hair.

7. Article "Police look again at attack in March". • 178cm tall, olive skin, thick dark wavy collar length hair. Blue collared shirt with jeans.
Or

8. the 2 girls who were raped adjacent to the Swanbourne Train Station in 1992 whilst walking home from CBV.

Unreported Claremont attacks at that time:


1. 1989 (Reported November 14, 2015) Article "Kidnapped Teen in Claremont Attack".

2, Drunk teen removed from car parked opposite Cottesloe Hotel late 1989, transported to another car & driven to old Swanbourne Drive In, attempted rape. Escaped, recaptured on Alfred Rd, escaped.
•Reported to Police after reading SCS were investigating other potentially connected incidents in October 2015 Post article.
• station wagon or hatchback, more stocky than tall, whiskers, assumed at least 30yrs.

3. 1994 (Reported December 22, 2015) Article "Teen lured into Claremont Car". Women in large car park likely Coles, approached to assist man finding keys in backseat of Commodore. Brother arrived and asked what the hell are you doing and they left.
• Reported to police with description of person after reading 2 new clues to serial killer article 05Dec15.
• Post declined to publish description

4. 1995 December (Reported August 6 2016) Article The West Australian. Police requesting prostitute who had approached them previously about an incident in Claremont to contact them again.


Attacks elsewhere with similar attributes:
1. 1988 (May 28) Article "Woman tells of nightmare on Hill St". Dorothy dragged from car on Hill St at 1am after leaving Sheraton and beaten for 3 hrs then wrapped like a mummy in packing tape. Taken in small yellow car, possibly a Toyota, with metal bucket seat to Wilson and dumped, covered in plastic sheeting.

2. (April 23) Article "Clubber: I was raped"
girl picked up by 2 guys from Hay St Subiaco around 2am and raped down a track off Underwood Ave Floreat near CSIRO after telling her they'd take her to Northbridge.
• Red Holden Commodore
• 175-183cm, Olive complexion, 23-25yrs


Other descriptions relating to Claremont:
Guys seen on security videos.

1. 1997 (March 22) From article "Theories could hinder the hunt" West Australian.
• Long haired young man speaking to unidentified girl on video shot inside hotel just prior to CG disappearance.


•Blonde guy with bobbed hair about 24 y/o in Claremont saying his dad was a cop & offering lifts to women. Looked similar to the blonde guy seen on video footage speaking to JR according to Camille Maclean.


2. Guy in taxi with SS: 1997 (March 21) Steve Ross Ford taxi quoted on ABC Radio.• well dressed, tall, good looking, blonde man.


3. From letter to Post "Police have proof I did not abduct Sarah Spiers". • white shirt, black trousers, knew how to talk to women.
Guy in apartment block in South Perth#
2005 (October 2) Article "I saw Sarah too: witness backs taxi driver" The Post
Reported by Mr Boudville. Saw man with SS the morning she disappeared. • tall, well dressed, skinny with sharp features, black hair, with small curls at the back.
Fake taxi drivers


4. 1996 (January 14) SAS guy given lift $15 from Swanbourne Hotel to Campbell Barracks (waited for him to shower & change) then onto Hippie Club. Says the white Ford had no computer or meter but had official exterior identification.
Swanbourne TAB worker Steve Harris corroborated that it was a 1980's model white Ford Falcon with all exterior decals & roof lighting. Claims it was parked at the hotel with the driver in the car from 6.30-9pm.


5. 1996 (April 27) Another fake taxi. A couple left CBV, charged $5 to go to Swanbourne. Claim it was a white commodore without computer or meter and only when getting out did they notice it wasn't a taxi.
• Description of the driver - In his 30's, medium build, short brown hair with a European accent.


good work spy think you might be onto something there all those sicko rapists operating in the same area around the time of the csk murders some operating as duos and trios good of you to raise it again after 20 years makes you wonder if they were operating together and what common links then and now they have blonde hair guy taxi driver and old mate in back in swan taxi attempted abduction rape by two men in red commodore three men at swanbourne bash women after trying to abduct her tall skinny well dressed dark hair and curls seen with ss what has happened to mystery man from conti identikids and the like sas guy in fake taxis swna taxis sound slike a real wolf pack of campaigners karma plot thickens


petedavo, Club Legend , Jun 30, 2019


 SimonSays77 said:
good work spy think you might be onto something there all those sicko rapists operating in the same area around the time of the csk murders some operating as duos and trios good of you to raise it again after 20 years makes you wonder if they were operating together and what common links then and now they have blonde hair guy taxi driver and old mate in back in swan taxi attempted abduction rape by two men in red commodore three men at swanbourne bash women after trying to abduct her tall skinny well dressed dark hair and curls seen with ss what has happened to mystery man from conti identikids and the like sas guy in fake taxis swna taxis sound slike a real wolf pack of campaigners karma plot thickens
It does make one wonder if there were a group that grew or diminished to do some things together and individuals that struck out on their own. Whether all the attacks were known to every individual of the group is a big question, but if there was such loose association, then 20 or 30 odd years of passing before an arrest, which doesn't appear to be from information passed onto Macro, would suggest that anyone else in the group either had no idea, or that the group decided to self abandon at the time of the CSK in fear of being accused, maybe without realising the decision to lay low & go mum was being pressed by the actual perpetrator?
If the accused was part of this group, was he the leader of just a patsy of it?
I wonder if someone else in the group knew of his past alleged offences?
That knowledge would give a perpetrator considerable advantage to deflect an investigation into a patsy. The reports of the accused masturbating into sandwich bags, throws opens a possible patsy theory, because if a perpetrator got hold of such a sandwich bag before the CSKs, it opens an avenue for spiking the crime scenes at the time of offence, or even much later if the same perpetrator ever got access to the collected exhibits, prior to the retesting which was reported to of occurred some 10 odd years later. What caused me to speculate upon this theory has been posted beforehand. The names have been given to Police. Some here know those names.
There's one chap which is a friend of the accused since childhood association at Claremont Speedway with the accused who could fit the description of skinny with blonde hair, although he hardly has hair now. Compare him with the CCTV imagine at the Conti. And someone who once worked at Kewdale Telstra depot as a technician who after taking a redundancy once had a job looking after exhibits, has an interesting online presence upon sex dating sites.
None of this proves the theory. It just makes the theory possible.
Whether the alleged attacks involving more than one person prior to the CSKs are related in any way shape or form to the CSKs must be proved first IMO before the theory can be advanced.
At present there is no evidence of anyone who knew the accused being alleged to of being involved in any crime, or cover up.
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One former WA police officer has spoken out about these crimes, and has questioned Taskforce Macro’s secrecy and obsessive focus on singular suspects. Con Bayens served as a police officer for 26 years, and headed the prostitution unit. In 2000, he was part of an organised sweep, Operation Bounty, through Northbridge in Perth, which focused on sex workers and their clients. He has stated that he did not believe that Lisa Brown was killed by her pimp – a story proposed by WA police – because, he has said, sex workers on the street do not have pimps, but are highly disorganised and have terrible drug habits. They work for cash, and move around spontaneously.
Con Bayens has a disquieting story that during Operation Bounty he investigated a suspect who had called a sex worker to his car. Bayens described the suspect as having an air of authority, and good communication skills. As outlined in Debi Marshall’s book Devil’s Garden, the boot of his car was found to be lined with plastic, and to have “an arsenal of abduction weapons, zip ties, … scissors”. The suspect had: “completed a taxi driving course and done one shift. He was so hot as a possible Claremont suspect …”
In 2015, Con Bayens said that: “What I saw that night has haunted me for a lot of years.”
He states that he reported this to Taskforce Macro, and they told him not to worry about it, because: “We’ve got our man”. As Bayens concluded: “But as time was to tell, they had sweet fu** all”., Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk, Jul 14, 2019
shelly said:
Some of them took second jobs. I had a neighbour who was a Telstra Tech and he picked up night work working door security. Prostitutes don't seem to be BREs preferred target but there's some truth in it that when women on the fringes go missing sometimes it isn't even reported.
You'd reckon. Con Bayens hasn't said anything since the arrest far as I'm aware, I wonder if like Ferguson he's been dropping into the pretrial hearings.
Can we assume that the driver Bayens saw wasnt BRE then? if it was then surely something would of been mentioned about it by now, or he would of been called at the propensity hearings to testify that BRE was driving about with a suspicious setup. So if it wasnt BRE, nothing has been released to say this person was investigated and cleared, who was it and are they still out and about in society? Would make for an interesting conversation between the defence and Bayens.
Melsy, Club Legend, Jul 14, 2019
If it was an ex police car, it would have been bought at government auctions much like Telstra vehicles in the day.
I remember Bayens saying he had pulled over an IT worker for police.
"He stopped a man he believed to be loitering in an unmarked police car. "The boot was lined in blue plastic. There was wire ties, a pair of pliers, some masking tape," Bayens said." Why we didn't catch the Claremont killer, The former head of the Western Australian Police task-force responsible for catching the notorious Claremont killer has spoken out about the investigation that never hit its mark.
au.news.yahoo.com, Jul 15, 2019  31st May 2015. It seems WA Police and Bayens are in disagreement.

Claremont trial: Victim Ciara Glennon potentially seen on side of Perth highway
By AAP Dec 16, 2019
This never-before-seen face of a mystery driver, caught creeping on a young woman the night after Sarah Spiers disappeared, has been shown in the Claremont serial killings trial. (Supplied)

Lawyer Ciara Glennon's body was discovered in bushland weeks after she disappeared. (Supplied)
The Toyota Camry station wagon Bradley Edwards drove around the time of the Claremont murders (Supplied)

https://www.9news.com.au/national/claremont-trial-ciara-glennon-seen-on-perth-highway-before-disappearance/97ed0f35-c1f1-4046-9879-6aaec6eecb94

Two women have told the Claremont serial killings trial they saw a woman matching Ciara Glennon's description leaning into a vehicle on a Perth highway on the night she vanished.
Former Telstra technician Bradley Robert Edwards, 51, maintains he did not murder the 27-year-old solicitor in March 1997, and 18-year-old secretary Sarah Spiers and 23-year-old childcare worker Jane Rimmer in 1996.
Several people saw Ms Glennon walking alone down Stirling Highway on the night she went missing, minutes after she left colleagues at the Continental Hotel.

Susan Robinson testified on Monday that something made her look twice as she and her husband drove past, saying she saw a slight-built woman leaning towards a light coloured vehicle "talking to somebody".
"I'm certain that he had light brown hair," she told the Western Australia Supreme Court.
"In my mind at the time, I thought he was quite handsome."
Ms Robinson provided a description of the man for a police sketch artist the following month.

Lisa Mighall said she glanced at a slim woman standing next to a light coloured vehicle, which may have been a station wagon or ute similar to a Commodore, bending over like she was getting in.
That model has been referred to several times by other witnesses.
"It was definitely between midnight and 12.30am," she said in her statement.

Margaret Rogers said she saw a woman who looked like Ms Glennon in her headlights.
"She was ambling along and appeared to be relaxed," Ms Rogers said in a statement.
She also saw a tall man with dark hair walking behind the woman, but she did not think they were together.
She described the woman as being aged in her mid-20s and just over 150cm tall, while other witnesses including Patricia Mullan reported seeing a smartly dressed female.
Ann Kennerly said the woman was "a little unsteady" on her feet and may have been intoxicated.
But Angela Rainbow testified she believed she saw Ms Glennon walking in a straight line, not swaying.
"She looked like she was on a mission," she said.
Lynette Steenholdt was also adamant who she saw.
"I saw Ciara Glennon. It was about 12.20am," she said.
"She was holding up her bag ... she was trying to get a taxi."

Thai restaurant cook Phetchara Mombao said she had just closed the venue when her colleague commented on the lone woman's appearance, saying "she may be the next to go".
The court has previously heard three men known collectively as "the burger boys" because they were eating outside Hungry Jacks shouted out the woman they saw was "crazy" for hitchhiking.
Ms Glennon and Ms Rimmer's bodies were found in bushland at opposite ends of Perth, but Ms Spiers has never been found.
© AAP 2019

The Telstra Living Witnesses prosecutors believe may have come face-to-face with the Claremont serial killer
By Andrea Mayes 9th November, 2019
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-09/claremont-serial-killings-telstra-living-witnesses-accounts/11773788
They were young, affected by alcohol and just trying to get home after nights out with friends at popular pubs and clubs in the affluent Perth suburbs of Claremont and Cottesloe in the mid-1990s.

But unlike Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon, the women who testified this week at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards for the so-called Claremont serial killings made it home alive.
They were lucky to do so, according to the prosecution.
Six women now in their 40s and one in her 60s gave evidence in the WA Supreme Court that they had been offered lifts home by a man driving a white car or van, most of them bearing Telecom or Telstra insignia and matching the description of the work vehicles Edwards drove at the time.
The women are part of what has been dubbed the Telstra Living Witness project, a plan originally formulated by the Macro Task Force after Ms Glennon went missing from Claremont on March 15, 1996.
Macro was the name given to the specialised police unit that would ultimately spend more than two decades investigating the Claremont killings.
Macro detectives thought it was likely the killer would have picked up women and not murdered them, and so they began trying to find "living witnesses" who could provide vital clues about the offender.

Five such incidents have been presented to the trial.
The seven women in question
Annabelle Bushell and Trilby Smith detailed how they were hitchhiking home from the Ocean Beach Hotel in late 1996, something the women often did despite the fact that both Ms Spiers and Ms Rimmer had gone missing after drinking at the same hotel some months earlier.
Intoxicated and trying to get home on a night when taxis were scarce, the pair had their thumbs stuck out as they walked along Eric Street towards Stirling Highway in Cottesloe, when a man driving a white vehicle stopped.
While Ms Smith did not remember whether the car had any markings on it, describing it as a "work vehicle" or "electrical van", Ms Bushell recalled it as being "like a Camry wagon" or a Holden Commodore station wagon with a Telstra logo on the bonnet.
The women, who got into the vehicle, both described the driver as having neat, short dark hair and tanned skin, with Ms Bushell estimating his age at between 30 and 40.
But Ms Bushell decided to cut the journey short as they drove through Claremont after having "a strong instinct to get out of the car", so she took the opportunity to jump out and drag her friend from the back seat as the vehicle was stopped at red lights.
Jane Ouvaroff, who testified via video link from the UK, had been at Club Bay View in Claremont in the early hours of a weekend night between November 1996 and January 1997.
After leaving the nightclub, she and her friend Will Robinson met another friend, Mark Nile, and ended up at Rowe Park, where they stopped to rest.
Rowe Park is where Edwards seized a 17-year-old girl in February 1995 after she too had left Club Bay View, abducting her in his Telstra van and taking her to nearby Karrakatta Cemetery, where he violently raped her twice.
Ms Ouvaroff described getting up to seek a lift home and flagging down a white Holden Commodore station wagon she initially thought was a taxi.
The driver offered her a lift and she got in, but soon realised her mistake.
"I understood that it wasn't a taxi, but I didn't feel threatened or unsafe … anyway I stayed in the car," she told the court.
She and her friends were safely delivered home by the man, whom she said had short dark hair and was in his mid 20s to early 30s.
The car, she said, was a white station wagon bearing a Telecom or Telstra logo.
Rebecca Morse and Natalie Clements were among a group of friends who had been at the OBH on the Friday night before Christmas in 1996 after earlier going to a restaurant in Cottesloe.
The group left the pub when it closed around midnight and decided to walk to Stirling Highway after failing to hail a taxi from the hotel.
Like Ms Ouvaroff, the young women also thought a white Holden Commodore with Telstra insignia that repeatedly slowed down and circled them was a taxi, and tried to hail it.
But they did not accept a lift.
Julieanne Johnstone's brush with a Telstra vehicle late at night came the night after Ms Spiers disappeared, in January 1996, after she had left Club Bay View on her own.
She described waiting at a bus stop on Stirling Highway in Claremont for a taxi, when a man in a Toyota Camry pulled up next to her.
She ignored him for a time but when she turned to look in the car, the driver stared wordlessly at her for up to 30 seconds before she challenged him, saying "what?", and he drove off.
But her description of him appeared wildly different from the other accounts, and the identikit sketch produced by police bears little resemblance to Edwards.
She described a man with "messy" brown curly hair that was longer in the front than the back, wearing a denim shirt and aged between 30 and 35.
Katrina Jones remembered being picked up by a "quite good looking" man on Stirling Highway in Claremont in December 1995, and said he was driving a white van and was "comfortably built" with tanned skin and dark brown hair.
He told her he worked for Telecom or Telstra, she said, and did not have to pay for petrol.
The man said he had been driving around the Cottesloe area looking for "damsels in distress like yourself".
Katrina Jones remembered being picked up by a "quite good looking" man on Stirling Highway in Claremont in December 1995, and said he was driving a white van and was "comfortably built" with tanned skin and dark brown hair.
He told her he worked for Telecom or Telstra, she said, and did not have to pay for petrol.
The man said he had been driving around the Cottesloe area looking for "damsels in distress like yourself".
The Telstra Living Witnesses also bolstered the case that automotive and clothing fibres found in the hair of Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon came from Edwards's work vehicle and clothing, Ms Barbagallo said, and explained why the victims may have been willing to get into a car with him — because it was a work vehicle.
But defence counsel Paul Yovich SC accused Ms Barbagallo of picking and choosing cases to match its argument, and ignoring those which did not.
"We say the Telstra Living Witness project does not have any discerning power in distinguishing the accused as the offender," he said.
"The behaviour as a whole involved likely a number of different men and some of it involved actively sexually predatory behaviour, as opposed to one incident here where there was a relatively mild sexual advance alleged.
"This proves nothing against him and may even suggest other possible suspects."
It will be up to Justice Stephen Hall, who is presiding over the trial without a jury, to decide what value the so-called Telstra Living Witnesses are to the case.

Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western ... https://www.websleuths.com › Home › Forums › CRIMES › Serial Killers
00001. "I also believe that David Caporn single handedly destroyed any potential this investigation had. Despite all of this, the fact remains that the WA Police inquiries into these ... The "blonde haired guy" didn't know SS and wanted to get out with the drunk .... Remember, it has stated in the image source, the cops are DNA testing …
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/australia-claremont-serial-killer-1996-1997-perth-western-australia-5.306032/page-42#post-12607185
A few things I didn't know 1. The "blonde haired guy" didn't know SS and wanted to get out with the drunk woman dropped in Dalkeith.
2. Macro approached him 12 month ago asking about the blonde haired guy. Bartholemeus, Jun 4, 2016

Judge releases photos of cord used in rape, and victim's drag marks through cemetery

Trial of Bradley Robert Edwards
 9th November, 2019
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-killer-trial-live-bradley-edwards-faces-third-week-of-witness-evidence-20191209-p53i36.html  
9th November, 2019- 12.11pm
Security guard's movements at Karrakatta cemetery reviewed
The next witness statement will be read in by Ms Barbagallo. 
It is that of Jennifer Grace, 50, who worked as a dispatch officer, and sometimes a security guard in the mid-1990s. 
Her statement includes information about how security guards used portable 'data wands' to communicate where they travelled while on patrol. 
A client report was usually generated at the end of the month and sent to clients to show security guard activity and the areas patrolled in a time-stamped format. 
She has reviewed a security guard client report for Karrakatta Cemetery from February 1995 which showed three datapoint locations at the cemetery. 
"To her knowledge the date and times in the report are accurate," she said. 
The report showed there were no patrols of the cemetery between 1.43am and 4.59am on the morning of February 12, 1995 when the teenager was raped. 

9th November, 2019  12.15pm
Security officer working at Karrakatta cemetery 'didn't see anything' night of rape
The next witness is Noel Tsalis (spelling yet to be confirmed), a former security guard.
The 56-year-old is bald with a greying beard and is wearing a grey jumper. 
He said he worked the morning the teenager was raped at Karrakatta cemetery. 
He said he attended the cemetery three times during his 6pm to 6am shift while in his patrol vehicle. 

9th November, 2019  12.39pm
Prosecutors call police officer who attended teen rape
The next witness is Mark Emmett.
The Detective Senior Sergeant is bald and is wearing glasses and a grey suit, white collared shirt and tie with an ID tag around his neck. 
He said he was called to Hollywood Hospital on February 12, 1995 to meet Mr Edwards' rape victim. 
He was a first class constable detective at the time.
Det. Sen Serg. Emmett said he drove the victim around areas in Claremont that morning after the rape, and that he recalled she was wrapped in a blanket. 
He said he was driving a blue Commodore sedan and drove from the hospital in an anti-clockwise direction around the streets of Claremont to try to identify the crime scene, which they did around 7.15am. 
"We ended up in the north-eastern area of the Karrakatta cemetery," he said. 
"I had a look in the area and once there I decided to call the forensic people."
He's recalling finding three items of women's clothing in the area - the victim's skorts, underwear and "maybe a top". 
Another officer arrived to take photographs of the clothing "in-situ" around 7.30am, with Det. Sen Serg. Emmitt and the victim leaving the area to return to the hospital at 7.40am, according to his running notes from the day. 
He said he then collected some of the victim's other clothing and a telephone cable from the hospital and placed them into paper bags and handed them to a forensic police officer, first class constable McCulloch. 
Det. Sen Serg. Emmett then took the victim out on a second occasion that morning to ascertain where she was grabbed from. 
Det. Sen Serg. Emmett is now being allowed to refer fully to his running sheet from the day to assist in areas where he doesn't have an independent recollection. 
It says the first time he saw Const. McCulloch was at 8.30am when he handed over some exhibits at the Karrakatta cemetery.
Ms Barbagallo is now asking whose role it was to keep a record of the items being seized, he has responded it was the forensic officer's job. 
Mr Yovich is now cross-examining Det. Sen Serg. Emmett, reminding him of the time that has passed since the incident. 
Det. Sen Serg. Emmett has agreed his memory of the incident was patchy. 
Det. Sen Serg. Emmett is also agreeing it's rare for him to have to testify at a trial as a first responder for an incident that occurred so long ago. 
He confirmed in those times he often wouldn't write a witness statement unless someone was charged and they pleaded not guilty. 
He has also accepted his running sheet of the day showed times all ending in a zero or five.
Mr Yovich: You'd describe yourself as a generally accurate detective?
Det. Sen Serg. Emmett: I'd like to think so.
Mr Yovich: But not perfect?
Det. Sen Serg. Emmett: Nobody's perfect.

9th November, 2019  1.12pm
Court is breaking for lunch
Court has broken for lunch and will resume at 2.15pm with a new witness. 

9th November, 2019  2.19pm
Forensic officer from Karrakatta rape scene called
The next witness is Senior Constable Dianne Bickhoff, who is giving evidence via video link from Queensland. 
She was one of the forensic officers who attended the Karrakatta rape crime scene on February 12, 1995. 
"In 1995, I was a specialist in photography and I went out to major crime jobs. I would take photographs but I was also trained in collecting exhibits as well," she said. 
"One this occasion I attended with a forensic officer who specialised in fingerprints and his name was Adam McCulloch ... we were on call that time.
"We received the call around 7 o'clock on that date. 
"The scene were were asked to attend was Karrakatta cemetery. 
"I recall speaking to Det. Sen Serg. Emmett and the victim.
"The victim was dressed in a hospital gown, she seemed quite distressed, she looked like she had been through something."
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said she was tasked with taking photos of the crime scene and Mr McCulloch was tasked with collecting the exhibits. 
"I photographed exhibits in situ ... I took photographs of the drag marks near the sand in the tombstones," she said. 
She said Mr McCulloch collected a pair of black shoes, a "skirt or shorts" and a pair of underpants from the scene, as well as a soil sample. 
She said all were logged and placed in exhibit bags and given a case number. 
The exhibit numbers would be AJM1 onwards, she said. 
Sen. Const. Bickhoff is now being shown her photographs from the crime scene.
Of the drag marks, she said they were consistent with a body being dragged. 
She is now saying some of her photographs that she recalls taking, including of the items in situ, didn't appear to be in the brief years later when she was shown it again.  
She also recalls other exhibits from the hospital, including a jacket, hospital gown, hospital pants and a white cord, were seized and recorded by Mr McCulloch. 
They were handed over to Mr McCulloch from Det. Sen Serg. Emmett at 8.45am the morning of the rape, according to the crime scene report.
The Karrakatta crime scene exhibits - including the shorts which are of forensic relevance to the state's case - were seized from the area they were found in at 8.05am. 
All the items seized were logged using Mr McCulloch's initials - AJM - followed by a number, starting from '1'. These are the same initials used to number the fingernail exhibits taken from the body of Ciara Glennon in 1997. 
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said the exhibits were taken to the forensic branch laboratory for future examination. 
The letter police wrote to the state health laboratory requesting analysis stated Mr McCulloch was the only person to collect and handle the exhibits.

9th November, 2019 3.16pm
Forensic officer being scrutinised over missing crime scene photos
Mr Yovich is now cross-examining Sen. Const. Bickhoff. 
She is agreeing she took time with her paper work and that it was important to record everything done at the time, as it may be required as evidence years later in court.  
Mr Yovich: When an exhibit is found, it should be photographed where it is found, correct, and where it is collected?
Sen. Const. Bickhoff: Yes
Mr Yovich is saying there are no photographs in the brief of photographs in situ. 
She's also agreeing it's her job to record the photographs she took. 
He's asked if she would have labelled the photographs, she said she wasn't in a position to do that as she did not develop the photographs. 
"I placed the rolls for processing and then when the negatives are returned I label the envelope," she said. 
She's confirmed she has never seen that envelope. 
Mr Yovich has now asked for the photo job report to be shown in court. 
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said she filled the report in on a day soon after the incident. 
"That form there is filled out when you process the negative," she said. 
"It's really a very brief form. 
The job description is "photo scenes", she is saying the exhibits are part of the scene. 
Under the photograph section of the report, she has left it blank, saying "the reason for that is because you would have a number of rolls ... you wouldn't have that information at that time".
Mr Yovich has asked if, based on that report, it cannot be confirmed how many photos she took, which she has agreed. 
Mr Yovich has now moved on to Sen. Const. Bickhoff's witness statement from June 1995, and is questioning whether it explains everything she did on that job.
Sen. Const. Bickhoff: This would just indicate where I went to take photographs, it's not in detail.
Mr Yovich: So it is not complete?
Sen. Const. Bickhoff: This is an accepted practice that we would outline where the photos were taken. Completeness is when you have the photographs to go with that statements. 
Mr Yovich is arguing that it's not clear based on the written statement or report form that Sen. Const. Bickhoff filled out, that she took photos of any of the exhibits in situ at the time. 
She said she has never seen the photographs developed, but maintained she took them. 
The only photographs in the police case file are generic crime scene images of the cemetery and some drag marks. 
Having photographs of the exhibits in situ assists to confirm the integrity of the exhibit was maintained during its collection for examination.
In mid-June 1996, in the days after Jane Rimmer disappeared, someone contacted Sen. Const. Bickhoff and left a message regarding photos. A police entry in relation to that phone call said she returned the call and said she had no information. 
It's not clear what job the photos related to, and Sen Const. Bickhoff could not remember what it was in relation to.  
The prosecutor is now re-examining the witness. 
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said in the 1990s, photographs would only be printed off the negative if they were required for court. 
She is further explaining the report she filled out was "purely to give a brief description" so the film could be assigned a number and the negatives returned to Sen. Const. Bickhoff.
9th November, 2019   3.59pm
Sex assault squad police officer called to stand
The last witness for the day is WA Police acting inspector, Paul Lydiate.
He has thinning white hair and is dressed in his police uniform.
He was a detective senior constable with the sex assault squad in 1995 when he was assigned to the Karrakatta rape offence. 
During his time on the case, he organised for a sketch to be drawn of a Telstra van based on Mr Wookey's recollection at the time. 
9th November, 2019  4.13pm
Proceedings have wrapped up for today
Court has finished for the day.
Justice Hall is now considering media requests for exhibits to be released. 
He's agreed for aerial photos of Karrakatta cemetery to be released, as well as a photograph of the cord used to restrain the rape victim. 

Justice Stephen Hall, who is hearing the Trial of Bradley Robert Edwards - Court has wrapped up for the day- 11th December 2019

Toyota Camry station wagon Bradley Edwards drove around the time of the Claremont murders (Supplied)

David John Caporn-Former Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner-who was previously in charge of the Macro Task Force set up to  investigate the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings, 

Claremont serial killings trial podcast: ‘The Sliding Doors Moments’PerthNow
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https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-podcast-the-sliding-doors-moments-ng-b881402340z

​A taxi driver who accepted a job at 2am, a man who saw a lone woman on the side of the road, and the missing minutes of the last time Sarah Spiers was ever seen.
Three minutes was all it took for the 18-year-old to disappear. She called for a taxi at 2.03am on January 27, by the time the taxi arrived at 2.06am, she was gone.
Day eight of WA's trial of the century tried to shed some light on that time, with the taxi driver who was supposed to pick her up taking the stand, as well as a man who could have been the last person to have ever seen Sarah Spiers in a 15-second glance.
The day also heard from more women who say they had encounters with a man in a white Telstra van in the mid-1990s in the Cottesloe and Claremont areas, known as "The Telstra Living Witnesses", and as podcast guest, criminal defence lawyer Damien Cripps explains why it could be a misunderstanding.
Join Damien, along with Natalie Bonjolo and Tim Clarke as they dissect the day's events.

Claremont serial killings trial: Bradley Edwards’ attention to detail revealed in court as victim’s father takes the stand
Shannon HamptonThe West Australian
Monday, 16 December 2019

thewest.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-bradley-edwards-attention-to-detail-revealed-in-court-as-victims-father-takes-the-stand-ng-b881413092z

Claremont serial killings trial: Bradley Edwards’ victims give harrowing testimony
AAP
December 9, 2019 

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-bradley-edwards-victims-give-harrowing-testimony-ng-b881406715z

The trial of accused Claremont serial killer Bradley Robert Edwards has now heard accounts from all three of his admitted victims, with a teenager he raped saying she thought he would murder her.
Weeks before his trial in the Western Australia Supreme Court commenced, the ex- Telstra technician confessed to the 1995 double rape at Karrakatta Cemetery and a separate attack in Huntingdale in 1988.


But he denies he murdered Sarah Spiers, 18, Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997.
At the judge-alone trial on Monday, four statements from a now 42-year-old woman who Edwards abducted and sexually assaulted when she was aged 17 were read out in court.
“I thought at the end of it all that he was going to kill me,” she said.
He grabbed her from behind, tied her up with telephone cord, stuffed a thick cloth like a sock deep into her mouth and pulled a bag over her head.
His 1988 victim, who testified in person last week, was also attacked from behind - as she lay on her stomach sleeping - and he tried to cover her mouth with fabric.
He left behind knotted stockings.
The court has now heard from three of Bradley Robert Edward’s victims. Credit: Supplied


CLAREMONT: The Trial: The Karrakatta Rape: 00:00 / 35:24
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-bradley-edwards-victims-give-harrowing-testimony-ng-b881406715z

Response from Con Bayens:

Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #2 P.49
http://awn.bz/CSK_websleuths.html
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?284695-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia-2/page49

10-18-2015, 07:41 AM#722 elastic  elastic is offline

Someone posted the below a few days ago and then quickly removed it in minutes and deleted their post, why?

And has anyone debunked it, it sounds extreme, more than likely the rantings of a loon, but can anyone be certain that there weren't rapes around UWA, and if so were they reported in the media, and why not if this was happening?

I would like to know why the person who posted the below quickly deleted it though, what made you change your mind?

TerraAustralis • 3 years agoMILES,

I didn't get into the Perth & Claremont stuff in those posts. Around the same time I became a whistle-blower over the Claremont killings and the rapes at UWA, I was approached / recruited by, or on behalf of, the Defence Dept and most of the major Aust banks, to market their software.

Tess (Lawrence) has done several articles on the banks - my posts to her articles covered what I learned about our banks, and some of our Defence contractors (fraud, treason and breaches by their subsidiaries of RICO legislation in the USA - the RICO breaches translate into our banksters being in business with the Las Vegas and Chicago mafia).

Interspersed with the posts about the banksters' treason and RICO stuff, I added a bit about what had happened to us - forced exile, the shootings etc, but I didn't touch on the Perth stuff.
I was not the only one who knew what was happening re the protected suspect in the Claremont killings. His actions were so blatant, and so criminal, that he was bound to attract attention - and he did.

A senior police officer (no names so IA doesn't get sued for defamation) came to Nedlands to meet a group of local business people who had identified the suspect for his likely involvement in the killings and rapes. By that stage the police had his "violent sexual predator" handwritten profile, and the Commissioner's office were definite that they wanted the guy locked up forever, or run out of WA forever.

Obviously, based on what police told people later, they were ordered to protect the guy. And anyone who knew of his activities was effectively neutralised.
Eg a Nedlands lawyer who identified the same suspect (and an accomplice) to police from a break and enter at Applecross was forced to give up work - his wife suddenly became so ill, that her husband retired to become her full time carer. The file he had on the suspect was cleaned out from his law firm's files, within weeks of him quitting work.
If you saw the CCTV footage of Jill Meagher being accosted in the street by her (alleged) killer, you witnessed something almost identical to what was happening outside the UWA library. The "violent sexual predator" used to spend the early part of each night walking up and down the paths leading from the library, accosting women. the rape victims were dragged into the bushes a few metres of the paths.
Campus security knew he was there, knew what he was doing, and knew that he was not a student, so he had no business being on campus. But security and the University admin went out of their way to protect him - they refused, in writing, to do anything about him. It was not hard for the Uni admin to intimidate staff or students who complained. The suspect had a brother on the staff at UWA, which may have had something to do with the protection.

If he failed to "get any results" around the library by 10 pm, he then moved up Stirling Hwy to repeat his prowling around the nightspots of Claremont.
The guy used to try and on-sell ("fence" might be the right word) stuff he had stolen through local businesses in the Crawley, Nedlands and Claremont area. That was reported (multiple times) to the police. But for someone in a small business, and trying to pay the bills and the wages, and make a profit, it only takes a few hassling visits from the local council's inspectors, to scare people off from making any more waves.

Others, like me, ended up, out of Australia - I got a letter from a Perth law firm telling me I would be arrested at any Australian airport of I ever tried to return. The arrest warrant was organised by the same judge who was protecting the rapes/murder 

Who were the Claremont victims
Sarah Spiers. Jane Rimmer. Ciara Glennon. Three women

whose names were etched into Perth's consciousness more than 20 years ago.

Thank you for your call today in which you advised that the WA Police has made an additional response that I had been advised of the result of the information I provided to the Marco Investigation.

I remain the same and totally deny that I was ever given any result of my information.

Regards

Con Bayens

Defence lawyer Paul Yovich, who is representing Bradley Robert Edwards.... Paul Yovich SC is one of Perth’s most experienced and sought-after defence lawyers,

with over 25 years’ trial experience  in murder, sex, drug, fraud, insider trading and cyber-crime trials.

The girl was abducted and taken to Karrakatta Cemetery where she was violently attacked. 

(ABC: Emma Wynne)

The two women told how they accepted a lift from a man after leaving the Ocean Beach Hotel. (ABC News: Rebecca Trigger)

Bradley Robert Edwards Sketch-Credit- Anne Barnetso

Donald Morey, aka Matusevich,
who confessed to the wife of his boss that he has killed many times before, and would be happy to murder her husband if she wanted this to be done, after overhearing a bad argument between his boss and his wife..

11th November 2019  5.13pm
Judge, Stephen Hall releases police photos of Club Bay View, Continental Hotel in 1996

A copy of the original article 

Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitchhiking - Student- Date: 19 June 1996
Author:Andrew Clennell
Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition.

Telstra-issued work trousers from around the 1990s period. They were produced by Yakka, and were tendered to the court by the prosecution as another example of the uniform Mr Edwards would have been required to wear around 1996 and 1997. This pair were given to police by Stephen Gray, a former Telstra fleet management employee, in 2019.

The Continental Hotel in Claremont in 1997. Credit- The West Australian

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December 8, 2019

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​In this bonus episode we take you through the evidence given by the man now known as the ‘third wheel’ in Bradley Robert Edwards’ marriage to his first wife.
We explore the bizarre living arrangements, affair and pregnancy that the prosecution alleges led to the ‘emotional turmoil’ that caused Mr Edwards to kill Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon.
Salacious and intimate details were revealed in court, as the man who came in between the accused Claremont serial killer and his first wife gave his evidence.

In one video, Ms Rimmer is shown outside the Continental Hotel leaning against a column and looking at her watch at 12.04am.
When the rotating camera returns to the spot about 35 seconds later, she is gone.
Detective Sergeant Justin Geary testified Ms Rimmer was not seen in any other footage later that night while Edwards did not appear in any clips at all.

Join Natalie Bonjolo, Tim Clarke and Alison Fan as they dissect the significance of the ‘third wheel’.

The cord Bradley Edwards used to tie up his rape victim in 1995.

'It wasn't him': Bradley Edwards' legal team launched defence in Claremont murder trial By AAP Nov 26, 2019
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Bradley Robert Edwards is not the Claremont serial killer and the scientific evidence prosecutors are relying on may be contaminated, his lawyer has told his Perth trial.
The 50-year-old former Telstra technician is fighting charges he murdered secretary Sarah Spiers, 18, childcare worker Jane Rimmer, 23, and lawyer Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997 after abducting or luring them into his work car when they were intoxicated and alone.
In a brief opening address on Tuesday, defence counsel Paul Yovich urged Justice Stephen Hall to "beware the tendency to smooth out the rough edges" in the prosecution's case.
"The defence is simple - it wasn't him," Mr Yovich told the Western Australia Supreme Court.
"We are not pointing the finger at any specific person, all we are saying is the nice, neat picture the state wants to present ... is not the full picture.
"The proper approach in any case is to fit the case theory to the evidence, not to try to fit the evidence to the case theory."
Mr Yovich said the DNA and fibre evidence could have been contaminated, adding storing of materials in the 1990s was much less sophisticated.
Some DNA samples in the case, when tested, were shown to match PathWest scientists.
Mr Yovich said some of Ms Glennon's fingernail scrapings were actually clippings by a mortuary technician and had previously been assessed by scientists as "debris only".
Edwards did not have an explanation for how his DNA got under Ms Glennon's nails, but accepted a "direct scratching event" was more likely than chance social contact.
Earlier in the day, prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo said the investigation started to gain momentum in May 2013, when cold case detectives boxed a silk kimono dropped during an attack on a sleeping 18-year-old woman in her Huntingdale home in February 1988.
The kimono was finally tested in November 2016 and semen stains allegedly matched swabs taken from a 17-year-old girl who was twice raped at Karrakatta cemetery in 1995, and DNA found under Ms Glennon's fingernails, some of which broke off as she fought her attacker.
Investigators looked further into other offences committed in Huntingdale, where Edwards grew up.
A breakthrough came on December 16, 2016 when fingerprints taken from an attempted break-in in the same suburb in 1988 matched Edwards, who was in the national database after a 1990 attack at Hollywood Hospital.
Detectives swooped four days later, testing a Sprite bottle he discarded at a cinema where he watched a movie with his stepdaughter.
It was another match.
Police then arrested Edwards at his Kewdale home.
Detectives interviewed him for about six-and-a-half hours, during which he claimed he was only "a little bit" familiar with Claremont and had no association with the area so had no reason to go there.
Bank records show that was a lie as he did not want to implicate himself, Ms Barabagallo said.
He also "feigned disbelief" his DNA was on the cemetery victim.
Ms Barbagallo said fibre evidence found on Ms Glennon, Ms Rimmer and the rape victim was also a critical part of the case, holding "a lot of discriminating information" and providing another forensic link to Edwards.
Justice Hall, who is presiding over the trial without a jury, asked Ms Barbagallo if she would argue the murders were sexually motivated as she has submitted for the Huntingdale attack.
"We're not necessarily nailing our colours to the wall on that," the prosecutor replied.
"Certainly, Ms Rimmer was found naked."
Edwards confessed to the cemetery and Huntingdale attacks last month.
The Claremont serial killings trial will hear from its first witnesses today after two days of opening addresses in the Western Australian Supreme Court.
The court heard one witness, who had an affair with Edwards' first wife, now lives overseas and will appear via videolink during a late court sitting next week to account for the time difference.

A pair of Telstra-issued work shorts used by the prosecution to illustrate the type of shorts Mr Edwards allegedly wore around 1996 and 1997. They are important to the state's case as fibres allegedly matching Telstra work uniform material were found on Ciara and Jane's bodies. The shorts were given to police by Jeffrey Cohen as an example.

Edwards is accused of killing (from top) Ciara Glennon, Jane Rimmer and Sarah Spiers. (ABC News)

An aerial photo of the Club Bay View rear car park, taken by police in February 1996.

Carmel Barbagallo-the seniorDPP Prosecutor of Bradley Robert Edwards​

“Ciara Glennon was not talking to anyone and no car stoped”
TwistMember
Frankie1972 said: ↑
I know why the driver did not come forward. Because it did not happen like that. CG was not talking to anyone and no car stop
apoptosisfutzMember
Frankie1972 said: ↑
Well if you go back and read the thread you will see what I said about that.
Hi Frankie1972. I looked back and found the post below, might save some comments to and fro...... many thanks for the info you have provided on here.
Ok that night about 12.00am the three of us left the conti and walked to hungry jacks. Then we got our food and sit down at the bus stop. Then the opposite side of the road CG about 12.20 was walking down Stirling Hwy when my friend yelled out to her your crazy for hitchiking (I do not think she was hitchhiking) She just wave her hand in the air and kept on walking down the road. Now when we reported it to the police on the Monday one of my friends talking to the police about a car stopping and maybe talking to her.( Now you would think if he did see a car talking to her he would of said hay guys look at that girl talking to someone in a car) My other friend and me did not see a car stop that night (IMO no car stopped to talk to her that night.<br />
The dream yes I did see someone subconsciously and I will not forget his face to this day I still remember his face.

apoptosisfutz, Feb 26, 2017
Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
Hi Frankie, could you please say when you were last interviewed by Police for this case. Thanks

Twist, Feb 26, 2017
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CG was not talking to anyone and no car stop Hi Frankie, could you... ... past wanted to go back after seeing another car stop near her and not continue ... the same car (type at least) that the CSK drove as forensic evidence has since .... https://www.crimestopperswa.com.au/open-cases/ciara-eilish-glennon/

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/australia-claremont-sk-1996-97-perth-wa-13.329306/page-53
TwistMember
Frankie1972 said: ↑
I know why the driver did not come forward. Because it did not happen like that. CG was not talking to anyone and no car stop
Hi Frankie, could you please say when you were last interviewed by Police for this case. Thanks
Twist, Feb 26, 2017
mandy.mareeMember
Frankie1972 said: ↑
You mean the police or the new papar said that. Yes my friend did say some brake lights came on as they were near CG and by the brake light he said the car was a white station wagon to the police
Well it was a CIA documentary about the Claremont killings with a police officer talking as the footage was played.
They did also imply heavily that the girls willingly got in the car at the time.
They may have changed their mind about this also by now.
I believe what you and your friends saw.
Just weird they would state otherwise as if it were fact.
May have been they just elaborated on that as they know more information themselves and wanted this white station wagon found.

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mandy.maree, Feb 26, 2017
mandy.mareeMember
justified said: ↑
Frankie, i have seen you post this a number of times. if the details given to the media by police over many, many years are not correct (in your eyes), have you spoken to the Police? If not, why not?
seems odd if one of your friends "made it up", he just so happened to pick the right type of car.
The person who reported the car was certain it was a Holden and not a Ford too iirc
Seems weird to notice that if they were just stopping for a sec but who knows
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mandy.maree, Feb 26, 2017
PerthieNew Member
Perthie said: ↑
Thanks Frankie, I had read enough to know you were one of the witnesses at the bus stop, but as a newcomer I haven't read that much yet. I'll try to do some catching up because looking back just now, there's a lot of info I haven't heard before. Do you still remember the face you dreamt? And does it match BE's? Just wondering if it was a memory... Sorry, this has probably been asked before…
Whoops ignore that question about does it match BREs face... been doing more reading & seems like you think he's innocent - I don't think that'd be the case if you were being haunted by his face. But I'd still like to know what the face looks like?

Perthie, Feb 26, 2017
mandy.mareeMember
SuttonNew Member
janwa said: ↑
So one of the three told the police a lie about the car and it wasn't you Franki, how reliable were your mates the only other option is it was a police invention which may have stopped any other witnesses who did see CG but didn't see a car coming forward because they now didn't trust there memories.
I've seen similar comments posted many times, but there is still a lot of confusion.
Here is what Frankie's friend allegedly told police:
He saw the brake lights of a vehicle near Ciara. He may have identified the brake lights as belonging to a Holden.
This part is what Frankie is refuting:
Newspapers and the CIA episode say Ciara was talking to a person inside the vehicle.
My post is based on reading Frankie's past comments. His story has not changed, and he's told the same details, numerous times. I believe Frankie is being truthful. I have no idea if he's misremembering or his friend is lying or anything like that.
So how can we explain the discrepancy, including how police knew the correct vehicle type?
1. There was more than one source who saw CG. Maybe it's been reported as a composite account.
2. Maybe police asked if CG was talking to the driver and that planted the vision in the friend's head. We all know how many times this has happened with witnesses in other cases.
3. Maybe the friend just embellished the story on his own to be 'helpful'.
4. Maybe police told reporters an embellished version because they themselves were so convinced that the abductions were con jobs, not blitz attacks.
Really I have no idea. But it seems like there are some reasonable possibilities out there.
Frankie, please correct me if I've misunderstood.
Sutton, Feb 26, 2017
Perthie said: ↑
Whoops ignore that question about does it match BREs face... been doing more reading & seems like you think he's innocent - I don't think that'd be the case if you were being haunted by his face. But I'd still like to know what the face looks like?
I remember reading Frankie months before BRE was arrested, on another site. Frankie said the face he dreamed was Lance williams. LW definitely is not the CSK.
justified, Feb 26, 2017
justifiedNew Member
Frankie, I went back to visit another site where you wrote (on 30th October 2015) that when the Police came to your house to speak with you & your friend about CG. You stated your friend told police the car stopped & talked to CG. You then went on to talk about Astral travelling six months later where you saw CG.
I believe the official version as given by your friend to the police.
justified, Feb 26, 2017
mandy.mareeMember

"As she passed the Taste of Thai Restaurant and Baptist Church, a male person who was sitting at the bus stop opposite called out to her that she was ‘crazy’ for hitch hiking. Ciara dismissed him with a wave/gesture. This male was with two other friends. A few minutes later Ciara is seen interacting with the occupant/s of a light coloured vehicle further along Stirling Highway, near Stirling Road.
Ciara is seen to lean over with her hands on her knees and it appears she speaks to the occupant/s.
A few minutes later, the male turns back and the vehicle and Ciara are no longer in view. There are other possible sightings of Ciara along Stirling highway and it cannot be confirmed if Ciara did or did not get into this vehicle.
The occupant/s of this light coloured vehicle has/have not been identified."

https://www.crimestopperswa.com.au/open-cases/ciara-eilish-glennon/

Imo it may not have been the men in the bus stop who gave this information. There were a few others who sighted CG as she walked from the Continental and further on after the bus stop it seems
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mandy.maree, Feb 26, 2017
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They just got into the wrong car?
PAUL FERGUSON: Got into the wrong car and it cost them their lives. The answer is out there. Someone who is listening has the answer.
(Former head of Macro)
This to me indicates they already had good reason to believe the girls got in their killers car willingly. This may not be the case at all. This was what the police seemed to think however. They may have had others who couldn't be 100% confirmed as seeing CG or JR who mentioned they saw CG talking to car occupant and just insinuated it was the people in bus stop who said it as they were confirmed as seeing CG
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mandy.maree, Feb 26, 2017
SpinnakerWell-Known Member
mandy.maree said: ↑
"As she passed the Taste of Thai Restaurant and Baptist Church, a male person who was sitting at the bus stop opposite called out to her that she was ‘crazy’ for hitch hiking. Ciara dismissed him with a wave/gesture. This male was with two other friends. A few minutes later Ciara is seen interacting with the occupant/s of a light coloured vehicle further along Stirling Highway, near Stirling Road.
Ciara is seen to lean over with her hands on her knees and it appears she speaks to the occupant/s.
A few minutes later, the male turns back and the vehicle and Ciara are no longer in view. There are other possible sightings of Ciara along Stirling highway and it cannot be confirmed if Ciara did or did not get into this vehicle.
The occupant/s of this light coloured vehicle has/have not been identified."
https://www.crimestopperswa.com.au/open-cases/ciara-eilish-glennon/
Imo it may not have been the men in the bus stop who gave this information. There were a few others who sighted CG as she walked from the Continental and further on after the bus stop it seems
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I think you are right in that there are perhaps additional witness statements re the vehicle. One interesting point for me is that the person at the bus stop allegedly identified the brake lights as belonging to a Holden station wagon.
Therefore perhaps additional witnesses saw CG talking to the driver of the vehicle - these statements would then match up. Just theorising re potential additional witnesses - IMO.
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Spinnaker, Feb 26, 2017
b4uMember
mandy.maree said: ↑
This to me indicates they already had good reason to believe the girls got in their killers car willingly. This may not be the case at all. This was what the police seemed to think however. They may have had others who couldn't be 100% confirmed as seeing CG or JR who mentioned they saw CG talking to car occupant and just insinuated it was the people in bus stop who said it as they were confirmed as seeing CG
Agreed. Since Frankie he did not see CG get into any car, then it's possible that CG did get or was coerced into a car further along Stirling Highway, out of his range of view, or when he wasn't looking. It was dark, and Frankie by all accounts was alcohol affected.
b4u, Feb 26, 2017
mandy.mareeMember
b4u said: ↑
Agreed. Since Frankie he did not see CG get into any car, then it's possible that CG did get or was coerced into a car further along Stirling Highway, out of his range of view, or when he wasn't looking. It was dark, and Frankie by all accounts was alcohol affected.
Exactly
Imo it could be as simple as Frankie and his friends saw a car brake near CG. It was confirmed as CG as they recalled what she was wearing and interacted with her to some degree. Accurate description
Maybe further up the road someone saw her talking to a Holden Commodore but aren't sure what she was wearing or had inaccurate description of her so can't be confirmed sighting.
Something had to have linked the two though for police to have added in her talking to the occupant of a car.
My guess is the driver maybe slowed down to check her out at the point Frankie and friends saw her..then he stopped further up the road to talk to her or offer a lift.
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mandy.maree, Feb 26, 2017
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Frankie1972 said: ↑
Well if you go back and read the thread you will see what I said about that.
Hi Frankie1972. I looked back and found the post below, might save some comments to and fro...... many thanks for the info you have provided on here.
Ok that night about 12.00am the three of us left the conti and walked to hungry jacks. Then we got our food and sit down at the bus stop. Then the opposite side of the road CG about 12.20 was walking down Stirling Hwy when my friend yelled out to her your crazy for hitchiking (I do not think she was hitchhiking) She just wave her hand in the air and kept on walking down the road. Now when we reported it to the police on the Monday one of my friends talking to the police about a car stopping and maybe talking to her.( Now you would think if he did see a car talking to her he would of said hay guys look at that girl talking to someone in a car) My other friend and me did not see a car stop that night (IMO no car stopped to talk to her that night.<br />
The dream yes I did see someone subconsciously and I will not forget his face to this day I still remember his face.
apoptosisfutz, Feb 26, 2017
Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
mandy.maree said: ↑
That is quite possible Frankie. I know you have said no car stopped that night.
Just curious why police would add that in if it's not accurate.
They weren't even looking for such a vehicle back then. They were too focused on taxi drivers and other suspects.
Maybe they had cctv or some other evidence that placed the vehicle in the area
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You mean the police or the new papar said that. Yes my friend did say some brake lights came on as they were near CG and by the brake light he said the car was a white station wagon to the police
Frankie1972, Feb 26, 2017
Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
Perthie said: ↑
Sorry, didn't realise this had been discussed before, I'll go find it.
I'm sorry but in the news article it did not happen with CG talking to someone in the car. If you not know I'm a witness from the bus stop that night.
Frankie1972, Feb 26, 2017
Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
apoptosisfutz said: ↑
 
Hi Frankie1972. I looked back and found the post below, might save some comments to and fro...... many thanks for the info you have provided on here.
Ok that night about 12.00am the three of us left the conti and walked to hungry jacks. Then we got our food and sit down at the bus stop. Then the opposite side of the road CG about 12.20 was walking down Stirling Hwy when my friend yelled out to her your crazy for hitchiking (I do not think she was hitchhiking) She just wave her hand in the air and kept on walking down the road. Now when we reported it to the police on the Monday one of my friends talking to the police about a car stopping and maybe talking to her.( Now you would think if he did see a car talking to her he would of said hay guys look at that girl talking to someone in a car) My other friend and me did not see a car stop that night (IMO no car stopped to talk to her that night.<br />
The dream yes I did see someone subconsciously and I will not forget his face to this day I still remember his face.
Thanks for that
Frankie1972, Feb 26, 2017
justifiedNew Member
Frankie1972 said: ↑
I know why the driver did not come forward. Because it did not happen like that. CG was not talking to anyone and no car stop
Frankie, i have seen you post this a number of times. if the details given to the media by police over many, many years are not correct (in your eyes), have you spoken to the Police? If not, why not?
seems odd if one of your friends "made it up", he just so happened to pick the right type of car.
justified, Feb 26, 2017

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mandy.mareeMember
"As she passed the Taste of Thai Restaurant and Baptist Church, a male person who was sitting at the bus stop opposite called out to her that she was ‘crazy’ for hitch hiking. Ciara dismissed him with a wave/gesture. This male was with two other friends. A few minutes later Ciara is seen interacting with the occupant/s of a light coloured vehicle further along Stirling Highway, near Stirling Road.
Ciara is seen to lean over with her hands on her knees and it appears she speaks to the occupant/s.
A few minutes later, the male turns back and the vehicle and Ciara are no longer in view. There are other possible sightings of Ciara along Stirling highway and it cannot be confirmed if Ciara did or did not get into this vehicle.
The occupant/s of this light coloured vehicle has/have not been identified."


https://www.crimestopperswa.com.au/open-cases/ciara-eilish-glennon/
Imo it may not have been the men in the bus stop who gave this information. There were a few others who sighted CG as she walked from the Continental and further on after the bus stop it seems
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mandy.mareeMember
They just got into the wrong car?
PAUL FERGUSON: Got into the wrong car and it cost them their lives. The answer is out there. Someone who is listening has the answer.
(Former head of Macro)
This to me indicates they already had good reason to believe the girls got in their killers car willingly. This may not be the case at all. This was what the police seemed to think however. They may have had others who couldn't be 100% confirmed as seeing CG or JR who mentioned they saw CG talking to car occupant and just insinuated it was the people in bus stop who said it as they were confirmed as seeing CG
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SpinnakerWell-Known Member
mandy.maree said: ↑
"As she passed the Taste of Thai Restaurant and Baptist Church, a male person who was sitting at the bus stop opposite called out to her that she was ‘crazy’ for hitch hiking. Ciara dismissed him with a wave/gesture. This male was with two other friends. A few minutes later Ciara is seen interacting with the occupant/s of a light coloured vehicle further along Stirling Highway, near Stirling Road.
Ciara is seen to lean over with her hands on her knees and it appears she speaks to the occupant/s.
A few minutes later, the male turns back and the vehicle and Ciara are no longer in view. There are other possible sightings of Ciara along Stirling highway and it cannot be confirmed if Ciara did or did not get into this vehicle.
The occupant/s of this light coloured vehicle has/have not been identified."


https://www.crimestopperswa.com.au/open-cases/ciara-eilish-glennon/
Imo it may not have been the men in the bus stop who gave this information. There were a few others who sighted CG as she walked from the Continental and further on after the bus stop it seems
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I think you are right in that there are perhaps additional witness statements re the vehicle. One interesting point for me is that the person at the bus stop allegedly identified the brake lights as belonging to a Holden station wagon.
Therefore perhaps additional witnesses saw CG talking to the driver of the vehicle - these statements would then match up. Just theorising re potential additional witnesses - IMO.
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Spinnaker, Feb 26, 2017
b4uMember
mandy.maree said: ↑
This to me indicates they already had good reason to believe the girls got in their killers car willingly. This may not be the case at all. This was what the police seemed to think however. They may have had others who couldn't be 100% confirmed as seeing CG or JR who mentioned they saw CG talking to car occupant and just insinuated it was the people in bus stop who said it as they were confirmed as seeing CG
Agreed. Since Frankie he did not see CG get into any car, then it's possible that CG did get or was coerced into a car further along Stirling Highway, out of his range of view, or when he wasn't looking. It was dark, and Frankie by all accounts was alcohol affected.
b4u, Feb 26, 2017
mandy.mareeMember
b4u said: ↑
Exactl
Imo it could be as simple as Frankie and his friends saw a car brake near CG. It was confirmed as CG as they recalled what she was wearing and interacted with her to some degree. Accurate description
Maybe further up the road someone saw her talking to a Holden Commodore but aren't sure what she was wearing or had inaccurate description of her so can't be confirmed sighting.
Something had to have linked the two though for police to have added in her talking to the occupant of a car.
My guess is the driver maybe slowed down to check her out at the point Frankie and friends saw her..then he stopped further up the road to talk to her or offer a lift.

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Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK

So there is no get out of being a witness in court for self claimed witness Frankie1972?
Even if both the prosecution and defence, would rather he not be used as a witness at the trial, because he was either too drunk, too unreliable, or compromised from subsequently claiming to have befriended the accuseds brother BRE?
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Frankie1972, Feb 27, 2017
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Moustachio said: ↑
Yes - prosecution has an obligation to bring all eye-witnesses to court if possible
Yes - defence is entitled to all witness statements
Am actually not sure how they protect witness's addresses, but I do know they are not allowed to tell witnesses not​ to speak with the defence
Witness identities can (and often have been) protected by pseudonym direction issued by a Magistrate or the Trial Judge. Witness addresses can be simply listed as 'known to Police'. I know this because I have had it happen to me. My identity is still subject to a 'Non Publication Order' because I was a child (10-14) when the offences were committed against me. I am now 56 and although the offender died recently my identity is still protected by Court Order. If I wanted the Order lifted I have to apply to the Courts and it is still at the discretion of the Attorney General as to whether the State consents to lifting the NPO.

The Weaver, Feb 27, 2017
Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
petedavo.au said: ↑
If Frankie is that worried, he can read about Non Disclosure
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/consol_act/cpa2004188/s138.html
There no reason why I should be worried
Frankie1972, Feb 27, 2017
Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
Someone is feeling left out. Tell me what you can bring to the cast
Frankie1972, Feb 27, 2017


Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
justified said: ↑
I personally do not understand the "interest" in Frankie. He does not know BRE, he did not see any car. He saw CG walk past & that is all. He knows TE.

Frankie1972Verified Insider - Claremont SK
Oh and I seen her in the pub and you forget the dream
Frankie1972, Feb 27, 2017

The Sarah Spiers evidence against Bradley Edwards in the Claremont serial killings trial
By Andrea Mayes
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-07/claremont-serial-killer-trial-the-case-for-sarah-spiers-murder/11775938
The abrupt disappearance of 18-year-old Sarah Spiers from the Perth suburb of Claremont on a warm January night in 1996 has remained a mystery for nearly 24 years.
"Happy and chatty" on the day she disappeared, her mood was described as "not depressed or upset" by those closest to her this week at the trial of her alleged killer, Bradley Robert Edwards.
On her last day alive, Ms Spiers had spent a relaxing Australia Day in the company of friends.
The teenage receptionist visited her friend Annabelle Ham's house in riverside Mosman Park around lunchtime and, although her friend was not home, ended up spending several hours lunching and chatting with Annabelle's mum, Christine.
Later, she had friends over to the unit she shared with her sister Amanda in South Perth and the group moved on to Kings Park, where they enjoyed a picnic on the grass.
The friends visited the Ocean Beach Hotel in Cottesloe, then Club Bay View in Claremont, before Sarah decided she had enough and wanted to head home.
She said goodbye to friend Jane McCormack, left the club and called a taxi from a phone booth on nearby Stirling Street, where witnesses saw her leaning against a low bollard.
After that, she was never seen again.
There is no forensic evidence of Ms Spiers's murder.
Her body, unlike those of the two other Claremont victims — 23-year-old Jane Rimmer and 27-year-old Ciara Glennon — has never been found.
Edwards, 50, is on trial for the wilful murders of the three women, who each disappeared from the Claremont area in 1996 and 1997.

But despite the lack of forensic evidence, state prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo SC said in her opening address "the many striking" factual and circumstantial similarities of the three murders led to the conclusion that "they were all committed by the one person".
She said that person was Bradley Robert Edwards.
The witnesses who heard 'blood-curdling screams'
This week, new details of how the state says Ms Spiers came to be murdered were presented in court, including a series of "blood-curdling screams" heard in the Mosman Park area on the night she disappeared.
Judith Borratt, who lived in Fairlight Street in Mosman Park in 1996, recalled hearing "desperate, blood-curdling, terrible, terrible screams" in the early hours of January 27, that were "very high pitched".
After that, there was "absolute silence".
Jesse-Maree Munro, who lived in an apartment in St Leonards Avenue, Mosman Park in 1996, also recalled hearing "blood-curdling screaming" that woke her up, causing her to wake her husband Wayne Stewart, who also heard at least one scream.
The three Mosman Park residents all testified the screams appeared to have come from the direction of a phone box on Monument Street, outside the local shopping centre.
Mr Stewart and Ms Munro looked out of their apartment window and said they saw a vehicle parked next to the phone box with its tail lights on, then heard car doors slamming.
Mr Stewart said the vehicle was a light-coloured station wagon, probably a Toyota Corona.
At the time, Edwards was driving a Toyota Camry station wagon with Telstra insignia on it.

Prosecution relies on a pattern of behaviour
Little other evidence relating to Ms Spiers's apparent murder has been presented.
But the fact that she disappeared from the same area as Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon, around the same time — all women vanished within a 14-month period — and was similar in appearance to the other victims was significant, the prosecution said.
"Allhree were of a small build, [with a] fair complexion, blonde hair. They were aged between 18 and 27 years," Ms Barbagallo said on day one of the trial.
All women were also vulnerable, being alone in the night after having drunk alcohol.
The state also said Edwards was suffering emotional turmoil around the time of Ms Spiers's disappearance, part of a pattern of behaviour that saw him attack women during such periods of personal crisis in his life.
The court heard last week that Edwards's first wife had moved out of the marital home around this time and gone to stay with her parents while she worked out whether to stay with Edwards or pursue an affair she had started with their housemate.
Ms Barbagallo admitted in her opening statement the evidence about Ms Spiers's murder was "not strong in isolation."
She would be relying on Justice Stephen Hall accepting the case that Edwards killed Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon.
She would then push to find him guilty of Ms Spiers's murder given the similarities between the cases, and the violent attacks on three women to which Edwards has already confessed.

This never-before-seen face of a mystery driver, caught creeping on a young woman the night after Sarah Spiers disappeared, has been shown in the Claremont serial killings trial. (Supplied)

Claremont serial killings trial podcast: ‘Missing Sarah’PerthNow
December 5, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-podcast-missing-sarah-ng-b881403621z

​The voice of Sarah Spiers haunted the court as her final phone call, a call to a taxi service was played during evidence on day nine.
Sarah Spiers was last seen in the early hours of January 27, 1996. She was out with friends at Club Bay View, and just after 2am decided to go leave. Alone. She called a taxi to take her to Mosman Park, but she never got there.
Today, we heard from one of those friends she was out with that night, recalling the final words she ever said to her friend.
The prosecution say, instead of getting home in a taxi, Bradley Edwards picked her up and murdered her.
The court heard from three people who heard screams in Mosman Park at around 3am that night, describing the 'blood curdling screams' that have stayed with them for more than two decades.
It was a highly emotional day, with a statement read out from Sarah's sister Amanda, a court room in tears and a witness consoled as she left the stand after giving her evidence.
Justice Hall said he has decided not to release Sarah's last phone call to the public, because he believed it would cause undue stress to her family. The West's Legal Affairs Editor Tim Clarke was in court and describes the the moment her voice was played for the second time in this trial.
Join Natalie Bonjolo, Tim Clarke and Emily Moulton as they dissect day nine of the Claremont Serial Killings trial.

PerthNow Podcast for
Karakatta Rape

December 9, 2019
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-podcast-the-karrakatta-rape-ng-b881406673z
Claremont serial killings trial podcast: ‘The Karrakatta Rape’PerthNow
December 9, 2019 

The terrifying, graphic and distressing account of a regular night-turned living nightmare of a teenager, who was abducted and raped by Bradley Edwards, was read to the court on day 11 of his murder trial.
In February 1995, the 17-year-old was walking to a friends’ house from a night out in Claremont, when she was grabbed from behind, a cloth was shoved in her mouth, her hands were tied and a hood placed over her head.
Completely helpless, she was carried to a car, driven to a cemetery and raped.
Bradley Edwards was charged with her rape, along with the three murders in 2016, but up until this year had always maintained his innocence. That was until three weeks before his trial, he pleaded guilty to the rape.
Today, the victim’s words - taken from a police statement days after the attack - echoed through the court room, and even though it was read out by the lead prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo, as Tim Clarke explains, he’s sure almost everyone in that room was affected by her harrowing, and graphic account.
We know Bradley Edwards is a rapist, but the prosecution want to argue he's also a murderer, and her statement will help them try to prove that.
In this episode, hear the defence argument that shocked the podcast team.
**WARNING: this episode contains distressing content***

Claremont serial killer trial podcast: ‘A Man in Uniform’PerthNow
December 2, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killer-trial-podcast-a-man-in-uniform-ng-b881399799z

As a new week of evidence starts in the Claremont Serial Killings trial, the court took on a different format for the day.
While the court waited to hear from the man who impregnated Bradley Edwards' first wife, two former Telstra employees gave evidence, and they were asked - very specifically - about uniforms.
The West's legal affairs editor Tim Clarke explains why the specific colour of the Telstra uniforms, when they were issued and the process of ordering them is so important to this trial.
Stay tuned to Claremont In Conversation to hear the details of the affair that the prosecution say led Bradley Edwards to kill Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon tomorrow.

Claremont Serial Killings Podcast: Episode four out nowGary AdsheadPerthNow
March 25, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-podcast-episode-four-out-now-ng-b881147123z

​Three women are dead and unsolved sex attacks haunt Perth suburbs.
Years pass and with the public losing hope that the horrific mysteries will ever be solved, a new suspect emerges in the investigation into the Claremont serial killings.
And as Gary Adshead reveals exclusively in The West Australian, questions about the police probe have emerged since telecommunications technician Bradley Robert Edwards was arrested in a dawn raid.
The 50-year-old has pleaded not guilty and will stand trial for three murders, rape and abduction in July.
So what is the police case against him? Adshead is joined by The West Australian’s Legal Affairs Editor Tim Clarke to sift through the evidence that will be presented at Mr Edwards’ trial.
But is it possible that police missed a link that could have led them to the accused man than a decade ago?

Edwards began working for Telecom (now Telstra) in the mid 1980s. (Supplied: WA Supreme Court)

Read the statement from WA Police
Sunday Night•31 May 2015
Sunday Night received this response from WA Police regarding Con Bayen's evidence, which he claims was disregarded by the Macro Taskforce:

Paolo “Paul” Musarri was once the undisputed king of his own little world — and a big fish in WA’s relatively small crime pond.

A second aerial image by police of the main Claremont entertainment precinct, with St Quentin Avenue running down the centre in the image.

Above: Jane Rimmer

Barlow and Chambers, heroin and the underworld:

Paul Musarri's life of crime EXCLUSIVE, Tim Clarke 
The West Australian Tuesday,
 6 September 2016

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/barlow-and-chambers-heroin-and-the-underworld-paul-musarris-life-of-crime-ng-ya-117585  

Paolo “Paul” Musarri was once the undisputed king of his own little world — and a big fish in WA’s relatively small crime pond.
Sicilian-born in 1949 into a family of seven, he was in trouble with the law by the age of 12 and while he did some day work, by night he was doing what made him the most money — and where he eventually lost most of it.
While frequenting Northbridge’s illegal gambling dens at Il Trovatore and Ginger’s, Musarri became one of the pioneers of Perth’s blossoming heroin trade, using couriers to smuggle packages from Asia’s Golden Triangle that he turned into gold.
It was gold spent on the finer things in life.
His former wife Linda Hill once described a portfolio of lavish properties, flash cars, thousands of dollars in cash under the mattress and Sydney shopping sprees.
Rubbish bags full of cannabis were hidden inside the family piano.
But most of the ill-gotten gains went on feeding Musarri’s crippling gambling addiction.
In 1983, at the height of Musarri’s peddling powers, Perth’s Brian Geoffrey Shergold Chambers and fellow Australian Kevin John Barlow were recruited to bring a batch of heroin to WA that had been stolen and buried under a tree on Ferringhi beach in Penang.
The pair were arrested at Penang International Airport and hanged for their crimes in 1986 — the first Westerners to be executed in Malaysia since World War II.
In 1988, middle-man John Asciak was convicted of conspiring with Barlow and Chambers to import the drug.
It was revealed the heroin they were carrying belonged to Musarri. He was never tried over the ill-fated deal.
But he has still spent 27 of the past 32 years in prison for his unceasing cross-border trade in high-purity drugs — a true crime story that was given another chapter yesterday.

Possibly, the last one.
During a sentencing hearing in 2002 for selling amphetamine to former Gypsy Jokers boss Len Kirby, Musarri vowed from the dock that he would continue selling drugs on his release. Back on the streets in 2013, he was true to his word.
Just before Christmas, Musarri and his then partner were awaiting the delivery of 361g of heroin at their Warnbro home by a regular female dealer.
However, police had been watching Musarri as part of bigger operation aimed at dismantling interstate drug syndicates.
They intercepted the delivery and the $131,800 in cash intended to pay for it.
Musarri, his partner and dealer were charged.
The two women were jailed for 23 months after co-operating with police.
But after being bailed, Musarri went back to doing what he knew.
On October 7, 2014, Musarri dealt a sample of the ice he was selling, which was later tested at 75 per cent purity.
The next day, Musarri completed a deal for 168g in return for $45,000 in cash.
A week later, another taster was followed by a bigger deal for 224g of the drug from his Vietnamese suppliers Van Dieu Phan, 56, and Vinh Pham, 29.
Musarri’s daughter Tammi handed over the ice and was apparently so drug-affected she did not know what was going on.

Yesterday, the mother-of-five wept constantly as her chaotic childhood and “horrific relationship” with her father were told to the court.
It was revealed that Tammi had been battling a heroin addiction since being introduced to the drug by her father’s girlfriend when she lived with him briefly in 1999.
Musarri is now himself a user of the drug, taking it to medicate himself for the pain from cancer.
He also has heart issues, after a heart attack while in jail in 2012, and diabetes.
Through his lawyer Gary Massey, Musarri also conceded that he was going back to prison.
“Any days he spends in prison at this time of his life will reflect a large proportion of those he has left,” Mr Massey said.
Musarri, Tammi, Phan and Pham will be sentenced later this year.

Rebecca Morse was with Natalie Clements at the Ocean Beach Hotel in Cottesloe in late 1996. (ABC News: West Matteeussen)

Family deals with its loss as serial killer still roams free
Sat, Feb 6, 1999,
http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/family-deals-with-its-loss-as-serial-killer-still-roams-free-1.149685

Ciara Glennon was born in a bush hospital in Zambia 29 years ago when her Irish parents, Denis and Una, moved to Africa to take up teaching posts in the region. Two years ago next month she went missing from her home in Perth, Western Australia and three weeks later her body was found in bush land, 50 km north of the country's third largest city.

Her murder, at the hands of a serial killer who is believed to have murdered three young women, stunned the local community and the whole state of Western Australia mourned her death.
The Glennons went to Africa from Mayo and Monaghan and settled in Australia when Ciara was five years old. She was a bright, fun-loving, adventurous child. She gained a law degree, mastered Japanese at the University of Western Australia and had no problem securing a job with a successful local law firm.

Irrepressibly fee-spirited, at the age of 26 she took a one-year career break to travel the world. During this time she visited Israel, Greece and Turkey and spent six weeks, longer than she had intended, with relatives in Ireland. In late February 1997 she returned to Perth for the wedding of her sister Denise. Her wanderlust sated, she got her old job back as a solicitor and was put in charge of a case that would have taken up most of the following two years.
She was wearing a claddagh brooch on the single-breasted jacket of her black suit when she went with colleagues for drinks at the Continental Hotel in the upmarket suburb of Claremont on the evening of Friday, March 14th. She was slim and brighteyed, with dark brown curly hair that fell past her shoulders. There was only one week until her sister's wedding, and the night was something of an early St Patrick's Day celebration. At around midnight, she left the hotel to get a taxi, anxious not to miss an early appointment the next morning. She was 10 minutes from her home.
Denis Glennon sits in the boardroom of Western Australian Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) where he has just finished a board meeting. As managing director of Environmental Solutions International, a waste processing and disposal company, he was recently appointed to the board of the EPA. In fact, but for this interruption to his schedule he would be next door with his fellow board-members, talking shop over a glass of wine.
He seems uncomfortable and understandably wary of talking to the media. His treatment at the hands of some Irish newspapers (not The Irish Times) at the time of Ciara's disappearance resulted in a written apology to him and his family.
He is well spoken, impeccably dressed. He carries a compact mobile phone and wears a wider than usual marriage band on his wedding finger. Behind him the Swan River sparkles soothingly under a clear Perth sky as he waits for the interview to begin.
When he speaks it is in the carefully measured tones of those who have suffered too much to bother wasting words. Instead of choosing to assert Ciara's personality, her talents, her essence, he phones his secretary and instructs her gently, in his still distinctly Irish accent, to fax over the eulogy he wrote for her funeral Mass. It talks more eloquently than perhaps he ever could again about who his daughter was.
Instead of answering questions about how the investigation into his daughter's death is progressing he punches numbers into his phone and calls the head of the police task force set up to catch the Claremont serial killer. He knows that without his say-so the police are unlikely to co-operate with an out-of-town journalist. "You should be fine now," he says and waits for the next question.
Ciara Glennon's story hangs heavily in the air-conditioned room. You want to ask this strong, silent Irishman how life has been over the last two years since his daughter went missing; to describe the torment they endured when her partially clothed body was found under some scrub by a passer-by three weeks later. How he and his family have coped when the man who police are 99.9 per cent sure perpetrated this atrocity is living a short drive away from their home.

"When it hits you first you are totally numb with shock. Then you go through a stage of absolute anger, a stage of questioning your faith, disbelief. You start to question the abilities of the police, and then there are periods, weeks and weeks without sleep, total exhaustion," he says.

Ciara was probably not thinking about it as she made her way along Stirling Highway in search of a taxi that night, but in the 18 months before two young women had disappeared from almost the exact same spot. Police had already highlighted the possibility of a serial killer after 18-year-old Sarah Ellen Spiers and, eight months later, 23-year-old Jane Louise Rimmer went missing. Like Ciara, both women were petite, young, attractive and well-dressed.

Sarah Ellen Spiers's body has never been found, but they found Jane Louise eight weeks after she went missing. It was 50 km south of Claremont, about four metres in from the road in dense vegetation. The Macro Taskforce was quickly established by Perth police, as it became clear that a serial killer was at large in the area.

The search for Ciara got under way immediately. By late Saturday afternoon the task force was making inquiries into her movements and by the end of the week they were imploring people to come forward with any useful information. Denise Glennon was married as planned that weekend - the bridesmaid's dress supposed to be worn by her best friend and sister left hanging in the wardrobe.

"It was a very difficult decision to go ahead with the wedding," says Denis Glennon. "But stripped of all the usual materialistic elements it was so much more meaningful and special."

Three weeks after she went missing, Ciara's body was found at a remote fishing location near Perth. The pain of this time has never left Denis Glennon's eyes but what also remains for him is the way a whole country, his business friends, the media, ordinary people took their awful family tragedy to their hearts.

Almost immediately afterwards the Secure Community Foundation was set up by Denis Glennon's colleagues to raise money for extra resources to help the police investigation. The funds paid for a DNA analyser to scan the oral swabs given by the hundreds interviewed after the murder. They paid for a retired FBI polygrapher (lie detector expert), Ron Homer, to travel to Western Australia for a month, allowing police to eliminate a large number of suspects and focus on the remaining group who had refused the test or who had failed it.

They also paid for an FBI psychological profiler to visit for a month to give police a better understanding as to the identity of the offender, his likely traits, his background, his lifestyle. The last time the funds donated by the SCF were tallied they came to A$850,000 (£390,000). It is the largest homicide investigation conducted in Australia.
In late October 1997 police in Perth identified the person they still suspect of being the Claremont serial killer. He was kept for 10 months under covert surveillance until April last year, 12 months after Ciara was found, when he was observed driving alone through Claremont's business district, stalking a girl who looked very like Ciara and the two other victims. He was interviewed at length that evening and has been under overt surveillance ever since.
A member of the Macro Taskforce said last week that the suspect, a 42-year-old civil servant, was driving home from work to his parents' house as we spoke. "He is a quiet, introverted, insignificant member of the community and the person we strongly believe is the Claremont serial killer," he said. The vital evidence they need for a conviction is proving elusive, however.
People tell you that Perth has grown up since Ciara Glennon's murder as women grow wary of going out alone, but inevitably as time goes by complacency is creeping in. The Glennon family has been dramatically altered, priorities shifted, perspectives changed.
"Previous to Ciara's murder I was no different than any other reasonably successful business man," says Denis Glennon, adding that "now life is much more about caring for our family. There has been a huge renewal in the meaning of faith amongst us."
The everyday ways in which the bitter grief has changed them are informative. Una Glennon used to watch "a reasonable amount of TV, partly crime-related stuff. Now she doesn't watch any," says Denis. Constantly travelling, he himself used to go through up to three novels a week. "Now I don't. It seems frivolous."
He does not view the apprehension of Ciara's killer in a vengeful way but "justice must prevail". "Finding the perpetrator will be like closing a chapter but it also means that the whole horror of what happened to Ciara will be revealed and I am not looking forward to that for any of our sakes," he says.
The Glennons realise that each of them must go through it in their own way. They haven't sought counselling and will not. Denis Glennon knows the statistics - that 80 per cent of marriages simply don't survive this kind of devastation - but his has come through the worst

The drag marks left in the sand after Bradley Edwards dragged his 17-year-old victim into Karrakatta cemetery to rape her.

"....These above type of photo shopped pictures provided and created by the main stream media on their internet websites, magazines, hard copy newspapers and television outlets, help brainwash the general pubic over time, that Bradley Robert Edwards is the person solely responsible for the abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon, a long time before any actual alleged evidence is produced in a court of law to prove the allegations made by the police to the media and the prosecutors, to the court, in their outline of their alleged evidence they have against Bradley Robert Edwards, as being allegedly solely responsible for the abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon..... regardless of whether  Bradley Robert Edwards is found guilty or not guilty of the person solely responsible for the abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon ... Bradley Robert Edwards, will be considered by many in Australia and world wide as a result of trial by the media ... as being guilty of not only being the person solely responsible for the abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jame Rimmer and Ciara Glennon .. but also as being likely responsible for many and/or all of the unsolved sex attacks and female disappearances and murders from the lat 1980's until the arrest of Bradley Robert Edwards..... it quite understandable now that Bradley Robert Edwards has pleaded guilty for:

(a) the Hollywood Hospital Attack in 1990, where 0 ..Mr Edwards, in 1990, was working at Hollywood Hospital as a Telstra contractor when he attempted to drag a woman from her desk into a toilet block, when Mr Edwards, then 21, attacked the social worker from behind, stuffing a piece of fabric into the woman's mouth.
She kicked her attacker and broke free, with security guards holding Mr Edwards until police arrived.

(b) a 1988 Huntingdale prowler and attack case,

and

(c) the abduction and rape at Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995,

that the media is entitled to display and report the details of such admitted horrendous crimes to the public and that Bradley Robert Edwards should be punished for these admitted horrendous crimes to the full extent of the law ...however it is the duty of the Western Australian Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia and the senior prosecutors and police assigned to the investigation and prosecution of Bradley Robert Edwards and any other possible person who could have been involved in any way whatsoever, in the planning and carrying out of the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders, and those who may have been involved in covering up for those who were involved in any way whatsoever, in the planning and carrying out of the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders, should be continued to the investigated and/or prosecuted .. and not just spend $Aust 100,000 to $Aust 200,000 million investigating and prosecuting Bradley Robert Edwards with blinkers on the assumption that Bradley Robert Edwards is the person solely responsible for the abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon .. and refuse to allow an other evidence to be investigated, publicly aired and/or presented at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards who has been accused as being the person solely responsible for the abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon .. that does not help the  Western Australian Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia prove beyond reasonable doubt that Bradley Robert Edwards is the person solely responsible for the abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon ..... to do so would be doing what the Macro Task Force under its then head former Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner David John Caporn did when for many year had the Macro Task Force mainly concentrate on public servant, Lance Williams, who was considered by police for many years to be the prime suspect in the Claremont Serial Killings. (ABC News) .... however in the end the Western Australian Police later stated that Lance Williams, was no longer a person of interest in the Claremont Serial Killings. ..... it has to be further noted that it seems that it is only the Western Australian Police are the ones in Western Australia that is allowed to publicly name a person who they belive at the time to be responsible for a serious crime and the media will repeat what the Western Australian Police has publicly stated.... how would it if the NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team publicly stated who form their investigations were involved in one form or another in the Claremont Serial Killings. . .. and published on the World Wide Web photos of the accused with photos of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon ... photo shopped next to their photo with comments that the the NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team have every reason to believe that based on 20 plus ears of investigations and information received and obtained this Police Officer was involved in the Claremont Serial Killings. . or the NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team, based on 20 plus ears of investigations and information received and obtained ....  have every reason to believe that this well know, respected and powerful business person was involved in the Claremont Serial Killings"...... NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team ..

Further comment by the  NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team:

"....Time will tell as to whether the Western Australian Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia, and the senior prosecutors and police assigned to the investigation and prosecution of Bradley Robert Edwards and any other possible person who could have been involved in any way whatsoever, in the planning and carrying out of the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders, take very possible step, and measure to locate, to investigate and present at the abduction and murder trial against Bradley Robert Edwards, all possible allegations and evidence relating to the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders, rather than only presenting the evidence, accusations, against Bradley Robert Edwards, and negative aspects of the life and character of Bradley Robert Edwards ... with the only and sole purpose of trying to at all costs .... convince His Honour Justice Stephen Hall to bring down all guilty verdicts against  Bradley Robert Edwards as being the sole and only person involved  in the planning and carrying out of the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders ... "........ NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team ..

".. It is further noted that .... on the publicly available and known evidence and information ....  the Western Australian Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia, do not have a complete good respectable clean record and reputation as always being honest in their investigations and prosecutions of various people for crimes in Western Australia ....  when you look at all the publicly known Miscarriages and Travesty of Justices that have occurred in the Western Australian Court, Police and Legal System in Western Australia over the last 50 odd years....  well known Queensland Crime writer Debi Marshall who wrote the book called "Devil's Garden", ISBN: 978174664669 published by Random House in 2007 an in depth not only was an in depth investigation into the Claremont Serial Killings, but also discussed  various miscarriages of justices in Western Australia policing and prosecution..".........NYT.bz CSK Investigation Team ..

Jenny Rimmer CREDIT:NINE NEWS

Outside the front entrance of Club Bay View on St Quentin Avenue in Claremont. Some of the last known images of Jane Rimmer were captured by two CCTV cameras pointing down at the street.

The NYT Investigation Team ask :

1. Why hasn't the evidence and witnesses been called at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards, that state that there was a Blond Male seen with Sarah Spiers in a Taxi with a female, the night before Sarah Spiers disappeared  .. who all traveled from the Claremont Hotel, first to Dalkeith, where the other female departd from the taxi (driven by Steve Ross) ... then Sarah Spiers and the Blond Man departed Steve Ross's Taxi at the Windsor Hotel in South Perth?


2. Why hasn't the evidence and witnesses been called at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards, that state that there was a Blond Male see in an apartment block with a female fitting the description of Sarah Spies, the after the time Sarah Spiers was last seen in Claremont at around 2.30 am.

3. Why hasn't the evidence and witnesses been called at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards, that state that there was a Blond Male  with bobbed hair about 24 y/o in Claremont saying his dad was a cop & offering lifts to women. Looked similar to the blonde guy seen on video footage speaking to JR according to Camille Maclean.

​4.    Why hasn't the evidence and witnesses been called at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards, that state that there was a long haired young man speaking to unidentified girl on video shot inside hotel just prior to Ciara Glennon disappearance.

5, Why hasn't the evidence and witnesses been called at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards, that state that four University students  saw a a girl at around 12.30 am, hitchhiking down Stirling Highway Claremont towards the city of Perth, fitting the description of Jane Rimmer as well as matching the cloths that Jane Rimmer was wearing, as reported by the media after the four students gave their statement to the local Cronicle Newspaper?

Comment by the NYT Investigation Team

It does seem that Director of Police Service and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia, are only interested in leading and presenting evidence at the  trial of Bradley Robert Edwards, which they think that will help convince Justice Stephen Hall that  Bradley Robert Edwards, is the sole person responsible of the alleged abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon. Regardless if Bradley Robert Edwards is in someway connected to the alleged abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon, the  Director of Police Service and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia, are determined to run with no other theory that Bradley Robert Edwards is the  sole person responsible of the alleged abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon ,, and that there is no possibility that there were no other people involved in  the alleged abductions and murders of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon.

Justice Stephen Hall, who is the Justice hearing the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards, has  ruled out several pieces of evidence as 'not relevant'. , has also has reserved his decision as to whether the emotional upset evidence will be allowed at trial. 

The what-if moments that are haunting the Claremont serial killings trial
By Andrea Mayes
13th December 2019
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-14/the-what-ifs-haunting-the-claremont-serial-killings-trial/11799052

PHOTO: Sarah Spiers, Ciara Glennon and Jane Rimmer were all last seen alive in Claremont. (Fairfax Media)
PHOTO: Sarah Spiers was last seen on Stirling Road in Claremont on January 27, 1996. (Supplied)It is the "what-if" moments during the final hours of murder victims Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon that must haunt their families, even more than 20 years later.

What if Sarah had stayed with her friend Emma McCormack on the dance floor of Club Bay View in the early hours of January 27, 1996, and caught a taxi home with her, as Ms McCormack urged?
What if Jane had jumped in the taxi that her friends had commandeered when it slowed down as she stood outside the Continental Hotel on June 9 the same year and they implored her to join them?
What if Ciara's hesitation about joining her colleagues for drinks in Claremont following a St Patrick's Day function at her work in March 1997, had meant she instead headed directly home?

The cruel promise of these alternative scenarios became apparent in WA's Supreme Court at the trial of Bradley Edwards for the women's murders — the so-called Claremont serial killings.
Edwards, 51 and a former Telstra technician, is accused of either forcing or enticing the women into his work vehicle after they left popular nightspots in Claremont, then murdering them and dumping their bodies.
Only the bodies of Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon have ever been found. Ms Spiers is still missing nearly 24 years later.

The absence of Ms Spiers's body means the defence must rely on circumstantial and propensity evidence and plenty of the former was heard in the court over the past week or so.
Witnesses told the court of seeing a woman matching the petite 18-year-old's description leaning against a bollard near a phone box on Stirling Street in Claremont just after 2:00am on January 27, 1996 — the same phone box Ms Spiers used to call a taxi to take her home.
We heard from the taxi driver tasked with collecting her, who gave a cursory look at the area she asked to be picked up from and, failing to see anyone, kept driving to the nearby Club Bay View where fares were always plentiful.

The 'blood-curdling' screams
And crucially, we heard for the first time from four witnesses who reported hearing "blood-curdling" and "horrible, horrible" high-pitched female screams in the Mosman Park area around 2:30 or 3:00am that night.
Ms Spiers had called for a taxi to the riverside suburb of Mosman Park, where she was planning to stay at a friend's house.
The four witnesses lived in different parts of Mosman Park and differed in their accounts of where the screams came from.
Three of them — Jesse-Maree Munro and her partner Wayne Stewart, together with Judith Borratt — thought they had come from a phone box outside a shopping centre on Monument Street, but Robyn Peters, who lived on Palmerston Street, thought they sounded more likely to have come from the direction of the river, or the council chambers.
Ms Munro and Mr Stewart reported seeing the tail-lights of a car from the balcony of their St Leonards Street apartment, parked next to the phone box, although they could not be certain of the make or model, with Mr Stewart describing it as a Toyota Corona.

At the time, Edwards drove a Telstra-issued Toyota Camry station wagon.
But what if any one of those witnesses, who agreed it was normally very quiet in Mosman Park at that time of night, had reported what they had heard to police?

Screams pierce quiet Wellard night
Screams were also heard in the semi-rural locale of Wellard, in Perth's south, on the night Jane Rimmer disappeared, with resident Ian Sturcke telling the court he "had never heard a scream of that magnitude".
Another resident, Kenneth Mitchell, said he heard the "very traumatic" voice of a woman yelling "leave me alone, let me out of here", followed by abrupt silence.
Again, the sparsely-populated area of Welland was usually very quiet of an evening and hearing screams was definitely out of the ordinary — yet nobody rang police.
Ms Rimmer's body was found five weeks after she disappeared, on August 3, but in another "what if" moment, horse rider Paul Lagenbach found her wrist-watch on the isolated stretch of Woolcoot Road just hours after she went missing and was murdered.
The watch was found just metres from where her naked body lay covered in branches and foliage, and Mr Lagenbach said his horse had "suddenly spooked", sending him tumbling off the animal.
Possibly a little dazed after being dragged along the road a little way before he was able to free himself from the reins, Mr Lagenbach found the silver Guess-branded watch in the middle of the road, exactly parallel to the spot where Ms Rimmer's body lay partially hidden just three or four metres away.

What if he'd walked into the bushes and found her?
And what if the woman who lived nearby and regularly drove down the road had investigated the nasty smell coming from that area of bushes, instead of assuming it was a dead kangaroo and advising her daughter to wind up the windows?

The missing DNA evidence
Ms Rimmer's body was found 55 days after she disappeared, some parts of it in a state of advanced decomposition.
It was winter, and June and July of 1996 had been windy and rainy.
By the time a woman out with her family came across Ms Rimmer's body by chance on August 3 while picking lilies, the DNA evidence that might have been expected to have been found on it had been washed away or otherwise destroyed.
Her clothes have never been found.
Fibres were recovered from her hair, however, and the prosecution says these fibres match those from Edwards' Telstra work car and the clothes he would have been wearing as a technician at the time.
Detailed discussion of these fibres, plus the DNA evidence found on Ms Glennon's body which the prosecution says matches Edwards's, is expected to consume weeks if not months of the trial.
But it is hard not to wonder whether more substantive evidence might have been found on Ms Rimmer's body had it been discovered sooner, and if so, whether that could have been enough to quickly apprehend her killer and prevent Ms Glennon's murder.


Topics: murder-and-manslaughter, law-crime-and-justice, courts-and-trials, perth-6000, wa, claremont-6010

 

Claremont serial killings trial podcast: ‘The Huntingdale Attack’PerthNow
December 6, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-podcast-the-huntingdale-attack-ng-b881404644z

​On Valentine’s Day in 1988 in Huntingdale, a teenager went to bed alone after spending the day with her boyfriend.She was woken up by someone lying on top of her.
Thinking it was her boyfriend, she said she didn’t feel scared. That was until she touched that person’s face. The person lying on top of her wasn’t her boyfriend, but was an intruder.
That intruder was Bradley Robert Edwards, who pleaded guilty to the attack 30 years later.
Day 10 of the Claremont Serial Killings trial heard from victim, as she told of her ordeal, and of the kimono that was left behind after the attack.
That kimono would become crucial in the police investigation, and the prosecution’s case against Bradley Edwards.
The day also heard from the family of the second woman to disappear, Jane Rimmer, and the ordinary day that would turn out to be her last.
Join Natalie Bonjolo, Tim Clarke and Alison Fan as they dissect the day’s events.

might be the next girl to go': Witness recalls seeing Ciara on highway
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-killer-trial-live-bradley-edwards-faces-fourth-week-in-the-dock-20191216-p53kbx.html
By Heather McNeill and Hannah Barry
December 16, 2019

16th December, 2019 -3.13pm
'Telstra had done no major works near where Jane's body was found': Telstra manager
The next statement being read in is that of Robert Scully (spelling yet to be confirmed). 
In 1996, he was a senior employee at Telstra who was called to the scene of where Jane Rimmer's body was found. 
He said he was asked by police if any Telstra work had been done in the area.
"At the time there had been no new Telstra lines installed in the area of Woolcoot Road," he said. 
He did however say, while he would be aware of any major works in the area, he was not aware of any individual customer faults in the area, that may have required a Telstra technician to be called.  
"If the faultsman went out and quickly fixed the fault, I wouldn't have known about it," he said. 
He said he had noted there appeared to have been some Optus lines in the area, but not in recent times due to the shrub that had grown over their signs which he viewed. 

16th December, 2019, 3.18pm
'I purchased Mr Edwards' marital home in 1997': Witness
The next statement being read into court is that of Gail Hilgert.
The woman purchased a property on Fountain Way in Huntingdale in 1997. This was Mr Edwards' marital home with his first wife before their marriage broke down. 
She said the paperwork for the housing contract was dated March 2, 1997 and March 3, 1997. 
The state alleges this event caused emotional turmoil in Mr Edwards' personal life and triggered him to murder Ciara Glennon on March 14, 1997.

16th December, 2019, 3.29pm
'I don't know what came over me': Security guard who detained Edwards after hospital attack recalls his reaction
The next witness statement to be read into evidence is that of Rick Marshall.
He was the security officer at Hollywood Hospital in 1990, when Mr Edwards attacked a social worker. 

"I was advised a female staff member had been assaulted. I immediately proceeded to the social work area.
"I observed a female crying and upset, and she was being comforted by another female. 
"I proceeded through into the social work area and observed a male person seated on a padded bench seat ... the male had his head down and in his hands and appeared to be muttering to himself, 'I don't know why I did it, I don't know what came over me'. 
"I asked the male 'What is going on here, what happened?'
"The male said 'I don't know what came over me.'
"I asked, 'What did you do?', he said, 'I just saw her, I grabbed her and tried to drag her into the toilet cubicle.'
"He said, 'I've been working on the telephone system'.
"I said 'you know you are in serious trouble and you can't leave, you have to wait for the police.'
"He said, 'Yeah I know.'
"The male asked, 'What am I going to do about work?', I said, 'That's the least of your worries'.
"The male seemed very withdrawn."
Mr Marshall said he wrote an incident report about the assault.
Mr Edwards continued to work for Telstra after the event, and was promoted a short time later. 
A Telstra employee earlier gave evidence there was no record of the incident on their files. 


16th December, 2019,  3.33pm
'The phone had been unplugged': Father of teenager Edwards attacked in Huntingdale home
The next statement to be read in is by the father of the teenager Mr Edwards attacked in 1988 inside their Huntingdale home as she slept. 
The man's identity cannot be published. 
He recalled being asleep in bed when he woke to the muffled screams of his daughter.
"Then I heard a bang on the wall… and a scream for help," he said.
He said he lept out of bed and ran towards the doorway, which was normally always left open.
However, the man ran into the door and found it had been shut.
After opening it and running into his daughter's room, he said he found her in a dazed and distressed condition. 
He went to call police, and noticed the phone line had been unplugged. 
Mr Edwards has admitted to entering the family's home and sitting on the teenager's back while shoving a piece of cloth in her mouth. She struggled and scratched him and he ran away, dropping a silk kimono as he fled. 

16th December, 2019,  3.35pm
Bank manager details Sarah's ATM withdrawals on night she vanished
The next statement is of John Daniell, a bank manager providing records of Sarah Spiers' bank transactions. 
It showed she got $30 out at the Ocean Beach Hotel and $40 at Club Bay View on the day she disappeared. 

16th December, 2019,  3.39pm
'There are no records of Sarah leaving Australia': Immigration
The next witness statement being read into court is that of Simon Yelland form the Department of Immigration. 
He is confirming Sarah Spiers' was not registered as having left Australia at any time after her disappearance on January 26, 1996. 
"No records were found under the name of Sarah Ellen Spiers," he said. 

16th December, 2019,  3.42pm
'
Jane visited for a drink the day she disappeared': Shenton Park Hotel employee
The next witness statement being read in is that of Ellen Magditch. 
On the day Jane Rimmer disappeared, she was working at the Shenton Park Hotel. 
"Sometime later Jane Rimmer came into the bar and joined us," she said. 
"Jane seemed quite happy and was behaving normally."
She said Jane left to go to the lacrosse club and she has not seen her since. 

16th December, 2019,  3.45pm
'Jane stopped by the night she vanished': Lacrosse club secretary
The next witness statement being read in is that of Sharon McColl, who was the secretary of the lacrosse club the night Jane vanished.
She said around 9pm, Jane knocked on the door looking for Peter, her son, who wasn't home. 
She said she let Jane in as her father was a life member of the lacrosse club. 
Ms McColl said Jane left shortly afterwards, and she left a note for her son to say she had stopped by.

16th December, 2019, 3.48pm
The Skyworks, as seen from the South Perth foreshore near the Narrows Bridge. CREDIT:GLEN DOWNTON
City of Perth worker asked to confirm 1996 Australia Day fireworks date
The next statement being read into court is that of Stephen Cummings, who is an employee of the City of Perth's surveillance unit. 
He said in 2019 he was contacted by police and asked to confirm the date of the Australia Day fireworks in 1996. 
They were held on Sunday, January 28, 1996. 
Sarah was due to attend the fireworks with friends, but never showed up. 

16th December, 2019, 3.53pm
Court has wrapped up for the day
Ms Barbagallo has finished reading in witness statements for today. 
She has indicated the state will likely complete all its civilian witnesses by late Tuesday or early Wednesday before the court breaks for Christmas until January 6, 2020. 
Justice Stephen Hall is now considering requests by the media to release some of the exhibits tendered in court. 
He has deferred the release of the identikit of the man seen by Ms Robinson inside a car on Stirling Highway until all witnesses who saw a woman matching Ciara's description that night have given their evidence. 
He has also deferred a request for copies of the knives issued by Telstra until that evidence has finished being heard. 
Court will resume at 10am on Tuesday.

Inspector Paul Ferguson,-Former Macro Taskforce boss, who was suddenly removed from being the boss of the Macro Task Force, when he stated publicly the the Claremont Serial Killer or Killers could be a Police Officer, a Taxi Driver, a Security Guard, or someone appearing to be one of these, and/or a well respected person, and asked for any possible theories to be provided ... it appears that there was a concern that  Inspector Paul Ferguson,-Former Macro Task Force boss, was getting to close to the truth and for that reason was quickly replaced by David John Caporn-who later because the Assistant Western Australian Police Commissioner... .David John Caporn was later forced to resign as a Western Australian Police Officer after being accused of helping the Western Australian Director of Public Prosecutions provide misleading evidence to have Andrew Mallard  wrongly convicted of the murder of Pamela Lawrence.
Andrew Mallard spent 12 years in jail for a murder he didn't commit.

Suspect not seen in CCTV footage showing Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon’s final hours
Angie Raphael and Rebecca Le MayAAP

December 11, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-suspect-not-seen-in-cctv-footage-showing-jane-rimmer-and-ciara-glennons-final-hours-ng-b881408602z
Please note that this above link will give you access to listen to the PerthNow Podcast of Day 12 of the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards.


Accused Claremont serial killer Bradley Robert Edwards does not appear in any security footage showing the final hours of two victims at nightclubs, but he cannot be excluded as a customer at a nearby service station.
The 51-year-old former Telstra technician and confessed rapist is on trial in the Western Australia Supreme Court accused of murdering secretary Sarah Spiers, 18, childcare worker Jane Rimmer, 23, and lawyer Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997.
The trial was shown CCTV footage on Wednesday of Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon on the nights they vanished from the affluent suburb’s entertainment strip, both smiling and talking to people.
In one video, Ms Rimmer is shown outside the Continental Hotel leaning against a column and looking at her watch at 12.04am.
When the rotating camera returns to the spot about 35 seconds later, she is gone.
Detective Sergeant Justin Geary testified Ms Rimmer was not seen in any other footage later that night while Edwards did not appear in any clips at all.
Footage showing Ms Glennon going inside the Continental Hotel with a friend at 11.38pm is the only footage of her that night.

Edwards was again not captured.
There was also no footage of Edwards’ Telstra vehicle or his parents’ cars.
But only some could be identified from those captured in the footage due to lighting, people walking past and the angle of cars turning.
Det Sgt Geary agreed under cross-examination that police were unable to find footage of Ms Glennon inside the packed Continental Hotel due to the angles of the rotating cameras, which filmed in black and white, and her diminutive height.
The court also viewed CCTV footage from a nearby petrol station showing an unidentified customer - a tall man with dark hair, wearing a white shirt, dark trousers and glasses.
Defence counsel Paul Yovich argued there was no evidence the customer was Edwards.
But prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo argued just because a person could not be identified, it did not mean they could be excluded.
Justice Stephen Hall said it was possible the man could be Edwards and allowed the footage to be tendered.
Mr Yovich also pointed out the time stamps for footage of Ms Rimmer in two clips showing her outside Club Bayview and the Continental Hotel were the same.
The detective said he was not aware of police conducting an independent technical check of Club Bayview’s accuracy but time checks for both clubs on the night of Ms Glennon’s disappearance were “found to be accurate”.

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NYT CSK Investigation Team Comment:
Articles on the West Australian Newspaper headed:
“The 30 seconds it took Jane Rimmer to disappear.”
“Rimmer family watches video of Janes final moments”
“Jane’s friend reveals heartbreaking final words”


These headings again is evidence that indicates that the Editor and Journalists at the West Australian Newspaper are all for some strange reason continually trying to convince the general public that the last known Jane Rimmer was on the video footage publicly shown at around 12pm near the Claremont Hotel …when the facts are that as shown by the article published in the local Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition, Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitching - Uni Student says, Author: Andrew Clennell Date: 19th June, 1996,Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition

That University student Emma Clayton and her friends almost picked up a blonde girl she is sure was Jane Rimmer early on the Sunday Morning Jane Rimmer disappeared…


Again it has to be asked why is the Western Australian Media, Police and Director of Public Prosecutions all conspiring to convince the general public of a false fact that the last known sighting of Jane Rimmer was on the video footage at around 12pm near the Claremont Hotel?

We are investigating the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders from the other side of the world to Perth, Western Australia, and it was not hard to locate the article in the local Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition, Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitching - Uni Student says, Author: Andrew Clennell Date: 19th June, 1996
Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition

So why is the evidence of the four University Students that are certain they saw Jane Rimmer hitchhiking on Stirling Highway, Claremont, near the corner of Loch Street, walking in the City of Perth direction, at around 12.30 am …not discussed and canvassed by the Western Australian Media, Police and Director of Public Prosecutions and why aren’t the four university students brought to court as witnesses as being the most important witnesses that were the last known witnesses that have come forward so far that saw Jane Rimmer alive at around 12.30 am … about 30 minutes after the video showing Jane Rimmer near the Claremont Hotel ….. they also were able be witnesses as to the direction that Jane Rimmer was travelling at around 12.30 am .. which was towards the City of Perth … plus Jane Rimmer’s friend admitted that Jane was quite drunk … thus one can assume that Jane was determined for some reason to party on and head towards the City of Perth where it was likely more party action could be found,,,, with such evidence the police should have been looking at all possible clues and information that could be found based on the fairly well established truth that Jane Rimmer was hitchhiking on Stirling Highway towards the City of Perth at around 12.30 am, and was not  picked by anyone around 12 pm … near the Claremont Hotel ….. or on Stirling Highway heading towards Mosman Park direction or in Stirling Road, Gugeri Street, St Quentin Avenue, Church Lane etc.   …… which where it is thought Sarah Spiers and Ciara Glennon disappeared and was somehow abducted going in that direction…. this leads to a possible conclusion that there was something different about the disappearance of Jane Rimmer to the disappearance of Sarah Spiers and Ciara Glennon, who both seemed to be heading towards Mosman Park direction or in Stirling Road, Gugeri Street, St Quentin Avenue, Church Lane etc.

One does not like to start to create a conspiracy theory with an alleged collusion between  the Western Australian Media, Police and Director of Public Prosecutions… to cover up the real last sighting of Jane Rimmer and the direction Jane Rimmer was travelling at around 12.30 am …. but it is more and more looking like it …. they even played in court a false reinactment of the alleged last sighting of Jane Rimmer complied by the Channel Nine Network …. which the Nine Network along with the Western Australian Media, Police and Director of Public Prosecutions… must all know is false because it is public knowledge that the last sighting of Jane Rimmer, was at around 12.30 am hitchhiking along Stirling Highway near the corner of Loch Street, Claremont … walking in the City of Perth direction …. it was public knowledge because this information was published in the following article in the local Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition, Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitching - Uni Student says, Author: Andrew Clennell Date: 19th June, 1996, Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition

“University student Emma Clayton and her friends almost picked up a blonde girl she is sure was Jane Rimmer early on the Sunday Morning Jane Rimmer disappeared.
Miss Clayton (21 years old uni student) said she saw the girl staggering along Stirling Highway, thumb out, hitching a lift at 12.30 am. Emma Clayton told police about the incident and her description of the cloths Jane was wearing matched that of a police description which had not been released to the media. Ms Clayton said she and her friends had been in Stirling Highway after leaving a 21st birthday party at Claremont Yacht Club. "Down near Lock Street we saw a girl Hitchhiking," she said. The Girl had her thumb out and we just slowed down and thought maybe we should pick her up but didn't." The conversation between the two couples in the car had been that she was a silly girl for trying to hitch in the area and they discussed whether they should pick the girl up. The decided at the last minute to move on. "we said of all placed for a girl to be hitchhiking alone, this was probably the worst," Miss Clayton said. She said initially, after she had heard of Jane Rimmer's disappearance, she felt guilty that that hadn't picked her up. "If we had picked her up things would have been a lot different, " Miss Clayton said. When she and her friends saw the girl there were no other cars on the Stirling Highway …”

Questions have to asked?
There is something not quite right going on here in Perth, Western Australia, when over $100 million is being spent on the prosecution of Bradley Robert Edwards to try and prove beyond reasonable doubt that he is the sole and only person involved in the planning and carrying out of the alleged abduction and murder of Sarah Speirs, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon ….. and the only person that knows anything about the  alleged abduction and murder of Sarah Speirs, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon… and the Western Australian Police have spent over $20 million dollars plus thousands of police man hours over the last 20 plus years investigating what is publicly known as the Claremont Serial Killings … which is also thought to possibly include the alleged abduction and murder of Julie Cutler on June 20, 1988….  22-year-old was last seen leaving the Parmelia Hilton Hotel in the Perth CBD about 12.30am on June 20, 1988 after a staff function.
Two days later her car was found in the ocean at Cottesloe beach.
Apart from several Parmelia Hilton champagne flutes in the four-door Fiat, nothing else significant was found inside the vehicle. And Sarah Anne McMahon … in November, 2000.. yet the Western Australian Media, Police and Director of Public Prosecutions have not been able to locate the article in the local Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition, Title: We Saw Jane Rimmer Hitching - Uni Student says, Author: Andrew Clennell Date: 19th June, 1996, Publisher: Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition … and locate the four university students and bring them as most vital and important witnesses in the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards … as being the last known people that have come forward that saw Jane Rimmer alive ….

There is really one possible conclusion as this question?
For some reason or another  the Western Australian Media, Police and Director of Public Prosecutions do not want to vary from the preformatted and rehearsed script …. that the last known sighting of Jane Rimmer was at around 12pm on the video footage as now shown to the general public … many years after the disappearance of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon ….

This along with the information that Sarah Anne McMahon provided before her disappearance in November, 2000 … that is provided at the trial of Bradley Robert Edwards would lead to others that were driving a Holden Commodore VS Series 1 vehicle - "the same make and model of car Mr Edwards drove at the time .. around the time of the disappearance of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon …. and that well known and well respected high profile people in Perth, Western Australia were named by Sarah Anne McMahon as being involved with the Claremont Serial Killings which she said including Julie Cuttler …. It is also noted that Sarah Anne McMahon was asked when she made this statement …”Why don’t you tell the authorities what you know to be the truth about those you know that were involved in  the Claremont Serial Killings which she said including Julie Cuttler …. The answer Sarah Anne McMahon  gave was …. “If I made such a statement to the authorities .. I would be dead in a week .. these people are simply too powerful … then not long after Sarah Anne McMahon provided this information to an independent witness … Sarah Anne McMahon  completely disappeared … with the coroner at the Sarah Anne McMahon’s Inquest stating that the evidence points overwhelmingly to the proposition that Sarah Anne McMahon  died by way of Unlawful Homicide

Coroners Act, 1996 [Section 26(1)] Western Australia
RECORD OF INVESTIGATION INTO DEATH OF  
Sarah Anne McMAHON
Inquest into the suspected death of Sarah Anne McMAHON

https://www.coronerscourt.wa.gov.au/_files/Mcmahon_finding.pdf
 Ref No: 47/2012

I, Alastair Neil Hope, State Coroner, having investigated the suspected death of Sarah Anne McMAHON with an Inquest held at Perth Coroner’s Court on 11-14 December 2012, find beyond reasonable doubt that the death has been established, that the identity of the deceased person was Sarah Anne McMAHON and that death occurred on or about 8 November 2000 at an unknown location as a result of unknown causes, by way of Unlawful Homicide, in the following circumstances

Counsel Appearing : Philip Urquhart Counsel Assisting the State Coroner John Rando (John Rando & Co) appearing on behalf of Natasha Kendrick

Table of Contents
Introduction .....…                                                                                           2
Events Leading up to Sarah McMahon’s Disappearance ....                            6
The Movements of Donald Morey on 8 November 2000.....................                    10
The Account of Natasha Kendrick ....................................................                                     13

Evidence Tending to Implicate Mr Morey .....................                                          16
Possible Lies Made by Morey Indicative of Consciousness of Guilt ....             18
A Claim by Mr Morey that Sarah McMahon had been Meeting a Nurse or

Doctor Called Christine or Christian on 8 November 2000 ...........                    22
Mr Morey’s Bag.................................                                                                            24
The Claim by Mr Morey that Ms McMahon is Still Alive ..............…                      26
Finding in Relation to the Suspected Death......................................                                27
The Possible Verdict..................                                                                            29
The Person or Persons Responsible for the Death..........................                             30
 Conclusion .....................................                                                                                31

 

CONCLUSION

"Sarah McMahon was 20 years of age when she disappeared on the afternoon of Wednesday 8 November 2000. She was reported missing on the following day by her mother and there have been no reliable sightings of her since that time. I find that she died on or about 8 November 2000. As indicated above, the circumstances in which Ms McMahon disappeared are sinister and I have confidently been able to exclude the possibility that she died by way of natural causes, accident or suicide. In my view the evidence points overwhelmingly to the proposition that she died by way of Unlawful Homicide. As her body has not been located I am unable to determine how she died."
A N HOPE STATE CORONER - 17 January 2013

A CLAIM BY MR MOREY THAT SARAH McMAHON HAD BEEN MEETING A NURSE OR DOCTOR CALLED CHRISTINE OR CHRISTIAN ON 8 NOVEMBER 2000
"Early on in the investigation Mr Morey claimed that in the last conversation he had with Ms McMahon she told him that she was meeting a nurse or doctor called Christine or Christian and that they intended going to the casino that night. It was suggested by counsel assisting at the inquest, Mr Urquhart, that this account may have been fabricated by Mr Morey, based on incorrect information which it appears may have been conveyed to him by Patricia McMahon, Sarah McMahon’s mother, in the days after the disappearance.
In fact it appears that there was no such person. This proposition is possibly supported by the fact that in Mr Morey’s various accounts this Christine or Christian appears to have evolved from being a former doctor or former nurse to being a ‘hooker’.
Mr Morey was questioned about this person at the inquest and the following exchange took place:
I do need to clarify a few points, and I will not be with you for very long. One of the issues that was raised is that I understand when you spoke to police you referred to a "Christine" and you said that Sarah may have been going with this Christine to the casino - a nurse or a doctor, or something like that.

Do you recall that?---

Yes.

Can you assist me at all in respect of who this Christine person is?---

Just a person, your Honour.

Is there any - - -?---

She travelled with that person to go over to Victoria. And have you seen that person?---

Certainly have. Yes, I know her. What does she look like?---

Yes, well, I can't divulge that. But you have given a person's name, "Christine"?

---Yes. Is that the real name?---

No. So that is a false name?---

Obviously it's not a real name. I am sorry?---

Obviously it's not her real name. I see, so that is just a made up name?---

Well, to protect her identity, yes. I see. And is this person - - -?---

Quite a lot of things that I said to the police were obviously mumbo jumbo. But as far as Sarah being alive, she is alive."

MR MOREY’S BAG
"Evidence was given at the inquest by a number of witnesses that Mr Morey had a bag with sinister contents. Marta Allen, Mr Allen’s wife, claimed that at a time which appears to have been relatively shortly after Ms McMahon’s disappearance, she saw a bag which belonged to Mr Morey and which he regularly had with him. She claimed that inside the bag there were two rolls of dirty grey, used gaffer tape, four lengths of ropes with knots in the ends about two feet in length, two knives, one of which was Mr Allen’s pocket knife, two large rubber bands, one condom in a packet, two pornographic magazines, between five and seven key rings and a map. She claimed that the porn books contained pictures of men with blood on their genitals and women tied up who appeared to be dead. In evidence Mrs Allen described the pictures of these women in the following terms (ts 99):
There was a magazine, a couple of them, they had pictures of women tied up.
These women had red lipstick on or bright pink lipstick on, they had their mouths gagged, their eyes gagged or their eyes blindfolded. They had – they were naked and these girls looked dead.
Mrs Allen said that she rang police about the bag as soon as she saw it, but it took them four days to get back to her and for someone to come to their house. In that time Mr Morey’s then partner, Lynne Bishop, had taken the bag.
This account in relation to the bag was essentially supported by Mr Allen and Ms Kendrick, who claimed to have seen the bag and its contents at the Allen’s house. Ms Bishop in her evidence vaguely recalled the bag being given to her, but is confident that it was in her possession at some stage.
She said she did look inside the bag and saw a magazine which contained, ‘a vision that I didn’t like so I just went straight, closed it like that’ (ts 119). She said that what she had seen was a pornographic picture. She said she thought she also saw rope and gaffer tape, but said that rope and gaffer tape were everywhere around her properties and in her car.
She claimed that she had given the bag to a Stephen Taylor.
Mr Taylor was approached by police and he provided a statement in which he claimed that he had never been asked to look after any property by Ms Bishop or Mr Morey and that he had never heard of, seen or taken possession of the bag.
Unfortunately in the context of the fact that the bag has never been located, its potential significance is greatly diminished. If it could be established confidently that Mr Morey had owned a bag containing items described by the witnesses, this may have constituted propensity evidence or indicated that at the time of Ms McMahon’s disappearance he had regularly with him items that could have been used in an attack on her. Whether or not evidence as to the contents of the bag could have been significant would depend very much on the precise nature of those contents and without the bag, evidence in that regard is lacking."

THE CLAIM BY MR MOREY THAT MS McMAHON IS STILL ALIVE
"Mr Morey has always claimed that Ms McMahon is still Mr Morey has been interviewed on a number of occasions by police. The most recent interview was on 14 June 2012 when he was interviewed by officers of the Special Crime Squad at the Bunbury Regional Prison. In that interview he stated that Sarah McMahon was alive and she had two children. He said that she had voluntarily left the country and that he had helped her. He was not, however, prepared to say where she was.
Mr Morey wrote a letter addressed to the ‘Chief State Coroner’ dated 2 December 2012 in anticipation of the inquest in which he made similar claims. He claimed that Ms McMahon now has a daughter and a son. He claimed, however, that he is not prepared to say anything further about her whereabouts as he fears for her safety. Mr Morey was questioned at the inquest and he again claimed that Ms McMahon was alive. He provided no further information and certainly no information which could be checked. In written submissions to the court after the inquest these claims were again made, but again no credible information was provided in their support. All of Mr Morey’s claims have been unspecific and he has not provided any information as to when he says Ms McMahon left the country, how she left the country or where she is living. At the inquest Mr Morey was a most unimpressive witness and I did not consider him to be a witness of truth"

FINDINGS IN RELATION TO THE SUSPECTED DEATH
"In the context that Ms McMahon has not been seen since 8 November 2000 and has not contacted her loved ones in the intervening years, I am confident that she is now deceased.
There was no evidence that Sarah McMahon left the country and there are no records held in Medicare, Centrelink, the Australian Taxation Office, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade or her bank which would suggest that she was alive in Australia after that time. While Mr Morey has claimed that she is alive, living overseas, he has provided no supporting information or evidence. As Mr Morey is aware of the fact that he is viewed as a suspect by police he has, and has always had, a motive to claim that Ms McMahon is still alive. I do not consider it likely that Ms McMahon decided to leave the country and managed to do so without using her passport and without any relatives or close friends knowing what she was doing. On the day when she went missing Ms McMahon had arranged to pick up her younger sister from the Mount Helena Baptist Church at 8.30pm which she did not do. Her car and mobile telephone were later found abandoned, the car at the car park of the Swan District Hospital and the mobile telephone on the median strip of the Great Northern Highway. The fact that Ms McMahon did not pick up her sister as planned and her car and telephone were found abandoned in these circumstances is sinister and suggests that something untoward had happened to her.
Based on all of the evidence I am satisfied beyond all reasonable doubt that Sarah McMahon is dead.


THE POSSIBLE VERDICTS
"Ms McMahon was a 20 year old woman in relatively good health. There is no reason to believe that she would have died suddenly of natural causes. If that had happened, her body should have been located. Although there is some evidence that Ms McMahon had been depressed on occasions in the period before her disappearance, evidence of witnesses who saw her on 8 November 2000 describe her as being in a happy and positive mood. When she was last seen Ms McMahon was going to meet someone and had later plans to pick up her sister. There is no reason to suppose that she would suddenly contemplate suicide and take her own life. In addition, had the death arisen by way of suicide, that would not explain the disappearance. There is no suggestion that Ms McMahon could have suffered some unforeseen accident and, again, the fact that she has disappeared appears to be inconsistent with the possibility of accidental death. In the circumstances of this case I am satisfied that the death arose by way of Homicide."

THE PERSON OR PERSONS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH

"In these reasons I have explored some of the evidence obtained by police during a number of investigations into the suspected death, particularly investigations relating to a person identified as a suspect, Mr Morey. A possible benefit served by the inquest is that it has assisted to crystallise where the evidence has been going in respect of a number of issues raised in relation to the suspected involvement of Mr Morey. It is for that reason I have reviewed some of that evidence in these reasons. It is important to recognise that section 25(5) of the Coroners Act 1996 provides:"

A N HOPE STATE CORONER - 17 January 2013

The 'sliding door' moments that led to abduction, murder of Claremont victims
By Hannah Barry
November 25, 2019 —

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/the-sliding-door-moments-that-led-to-abduction-murder-of-claremont-victims-20191125-p53dye.html
Jane Rimmer declined to home home with her friends on June 9, 1996.
On June 9, 1996, Jane Rimmer decided rather than wait for a taxi with her friends, she would kill time by going for a walk along Bayview Terrace in the upmarket Perth nightspot of Claremont instead.
The split-second decision proved to be one of several 'sliding door' moments outlined by state prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo on the first day of the Claremont serial killer trial.
Ms Barbagallo said as the clock ticked past midnight on June 9, 1996, Jane's friends decided they wanted to cut their night short and head home.
The group of five left the Continental Hotel in Claremont and went to a taxi rank on Bay View Terrace, where they waited to hail a taxi.
Jane decided while her friends were waiting she would go for a walk back down to The Continental.
When the taxi arrived, the group asked if they could drive up the terrace to pick up Jane along the way, finding her leaning against a pole outside the hotel.
But when they asked her to jump in and head home, she said no.
CCTV vision from the Continental Hotel captured Jane leaning on the pole, looking out to the road and checking her watch.
The four-camera system only captured 13 seconds at a time, and in a 32-second gap, Jane appeared to have vanished.
"This was the last time her friends saw Jane alive," Ms Barbagallo said.
Months earlier, Sarah Spiers was last seen alive by her friend Emma at Club Bayview in the early hours of January 27, 1996, when the 18-year-old promised she would be fine getting home on her own.
When Emma pressed her further, Sarah insisted she'd "be right", and took off towards a phone box on the corner of Stirling Road and Stirling Highway.
She called Swan Taxis about 2.06am and asked to be taken to Mosman Park.
A nearby cab, parked on Eric Street, took the job and drove to meet her.
"As he drove through the intersection on Stirling Highway he glanced through the telephone box and did not see anyone waiting for a taxi," Ms Barbagallo said.
When he couldn't find the young woman who had only identified as "Spiers" to the dispatch operator, he circled the block a few times before giving up and taking another job.
He picked up three young people instead; two men and a woman hopped into the rear of the car.
One of them, Chelsea Palmer, knew Sarah Spiers.
As the taxi driver turned down the intersection of Stirling Road and Stirling Highway to take the group to Mosman Park, he did one last scan of the phone box to see if he could spot the girl who had first called him out on the job, but could not see anyone.
Ms Barbagallo said if Sarah was there only moments before, Ms Palmer would have likely recognised her.
In a short three-minute window, Sarah had vanished.
Then for Ciara Glennon, after a night of work drinks that carried on to the Continental Hotel, a man allegedly gave her a stark warning as she walked past the Claremont Baptist Church, appearing to be hitchhiking.
"You’re crazy for hitchhiking," he yelled out.
He was referencing the recent ugliness in Claremont just months prior – the murder of Jane Rimmer, and Sarah Spier's disappearance.
But as a well-travelled 27-year-old who had returned from overseas two weeks earlier, Ciara waved him off and continued walking along Stirling Highway alone.
The man said he saw a lone man in a late-model Holden Commodore drove slowly past, and later saw Ciara leaning into a car of the same description, appearing to talk to the driver.
Then, she too vanished.
Bradley Robert Edwards has pleaded not guilty to the murders of Sarah Spiers, 18, Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27, in 1996 and 1997. His trial is currently being heard in the WA Supreme Court.
Hannah Barry.,   Hannah Barry is a journalist for WAtoday.

Accused murderer Bradley Robert Edwards allegedly used his Telstra car to abduct his victims. (Supplied: Supreme Court of WA)

The information from officer Bayens was received and Macro investigators at the time, and since, have made thorough follow-up inquiries. This was a case of an officer doing exactly what was requires. The matter was found not be to connected to the Macro inquiry. Throughout the investigation, detectives have examined tens of thousands of pieces of information, interviewed more than 10,000 people and followed countless lines of inquiry. Work done in the past has provided potential avenues of inquiry later and even today. Throughout its history, Marco has deliberately sustained a broad focus and not been limited in its scope at any point.

Claremont: The Trial podcast available nowPerthNow
November 28, 2019

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-the-trial-podcast-episode-one-available-now-ng-b881393030z

​Ever since the shocking deaths of three young women in 1996 and 1997, the unanswered questions surrounding the Claremont serial killings have remained one of the biggest mysteries in WA history.
Any hope of justice in the tragic deaths of Ciara Glennon, Sarah Spiers and Jane Rimmer seemed bleak for more than 20 years, with police coming unstuck and with no sign of a breakthrough.
That was until the arrest of Bradley Robert Edwards in 2016, who was subsequently charged with the trio's murders.
For the past three years, details about the allegations facing Mr Edwards have been in short supply as his case headed towards what has been dubbed the trial of the century.
Listen below as we bring you in to the courtroom and walk you through all the revelations, allegations and talking points as the historic court case unfolds.
Join our team of journalists and legal experts as we break down all the key information from the proceedings in Claremont: The Trial.

Claremont Serial Killings Trial To Begin Almost three years after Bradley Robert Edwards was charged with the Claremont serial killings, his lengthy trial is due to begin. CLAREMONT TRIAL 9:43pm Nov 25, 2019

Bradley Robert Edwards 

Claremont serial killings trial told of mysterious man sighted on night Ciara Glennon vanished
By Andrea Mayes
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-13/claremont-serial-killings-trial-mysterious-man-ciara-glennon/11795230
PHOTO: Bradley Edwards is accused of killing Ciara Glennon after abducting her in Claremont. (Fairfax Media)
PHOTO: Bradley Edwards is on trial for the murder of three Perth women. (Supplied: Facebook, Supreme Court of WA)
PHOTO: Sarah Spiers, Ciara Glennon and Jane Rimmer were all last seen alive in the Claremont entertainment precinct. (Fairfax Media)
PHOTO: Bradley Edwards worked for Telstra around the time the three women disappeared. (Facebook: KLAC)
PHOTO: The deserted bush road where Jane Rimmer's body was dumped. (Supplied: Supreme Court of WA)


A suspicious man was seen lurking in a side street just metres from a woman matching the description of Ciara Glennon on the night she vanished from the Perth suburb of Claremont, the WA Supreme Court has been told.
Key points:
· Bradley Edwards is accused of abducting three women from Claremont
· Ciara Glennon, the third victim, was partying with friends before she vanished
· This sighting of Ms Glennon was inconsistent with other witness testimony
Telstra technician Bradley Robert Edwards, 51, is on trial for Ms Glennon's murder and that of two other women — Sarah Spiers, 18 and Jane Rimmer, 23 — who were all last seen in the Claremont entertainment precinct in Perth's western suburbs between 1996 and 1997.
The previously unknown sighting was made by Karen Mabbott, who was driving along Stirling Highway around midnight on March 14–15, 1997, when she saw the man, who she described as being of Mediterranean appearance, standing behind a white car on Dean Street.
"There didn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason for anyone to be standing there," she told the court.
The man was about 175 centimetres tall, although "he could have been taller" she said, with short dark brown or black hair and of slim-to-medium build.
Just metres away, walking along the western side of Stirling Highway, she saw the young woman, who she described as being about 157 centimetres tall, of small-to-medium build and with curly shoulder-length light hair.

"She didn't look like she was in a particular hurry or that she was scared of anything, just trying to get home," Ms Mabbott said.
Her description of the woman's clothing also matched what the 27-year-old lawyer was wearing at the time — a dark jacket and white t-shirt-style top with a black skirt.
She nitially assumed the man was a taxi driver and that the woman had just got out of his cab .
"My initial impression was that she had been picked up in the taxi, she had got out of the taxi and she was walking towards her house," Ms Mabbott said.
But she did not see any taxi plates or signs on the man's car, which she described as a light-coloured sedan.
Edwards was known to be driving a white Telstra-issued Holden Commodore station wagon at the time
Man missing from first statement
Under cross-examination from defence counsel Paul Yovich SC, Ms Mabbott admitted the man had been omitted from her first statement to police about the incident, made in April 1997
But was adamant that she had told detectives about it and they had chosen not to include it in the statement they prepared on her behalf.
When she was questioned by police in 1999, she said they had shown her photographs of a public servant they were interested in at the time and asked her to identify him as the man she had seen, which she refused to do.
Her account of the apparent sighting of Ms Glennon was at odds with that of the "burger boys" — three young men who told police they had seen a woman resembling Ms Glennon on the southern side of the highway, also around midnight, about 300 metres from where Ms Mabbott said she saw the woman.
The men said they saw the woman lean down and talk to the driver of a Holden Commodore station wagon, but when they next turned to look back, both she and the car were gone.

Glennon in a 'festive' mood
The court also heard testimony from two men who were with Ms Glennon at the Continental Hotel on the night of her disappearance.
Ms Glennon's boss at the law firm where she worked, Neil Fearis, told the court she was in a "festive and boisterous" mood, having enjoyed St Patrick's Day drinks at the office bar in Perth's CBD before they headed to Claremont with three other colleagues.
He said she had consumed a fair amount of alcohol and had greeted friends sitting at a table outside the pub as they arrived.
That was the last time he saw her.
James Connor told the court he had met up with Ms Glennon inside the hotel and at one point he had retrieved her jacket after she had thrown it onto the floor, trying it around his waist so she did not lose it.
He said Ms Glennon was tired at that point and left to head home after about 10 or 15 minutes.

Discovery of Jane Rimmer's body

Details about the discovery of Ms Rimmer's body in the semi-rural locale of Wellard, in Perth's south on August 3, 1996, were also relayed to the court.
A witness statement from Steven Daventhoren, who worked at the nearby Green Acre riding school, was read to the court in which he described finding a "brown, wooden-handled pocket knife" that day on the side of the road while he was out riding horses with a woman called Tracey Bell.
"The knife was in good condition and appeared to have only been there a short time," he said.
The knife was described in an earlier court hearing as having a Telstra insignia on it and matching several others found in a toolbox at Edwards's house after he was arrested.
Shortly afterwards, the pair came across a woman on the side of the road who indicated to them to stay back and to keep the dog they had with them away.
"It sounded like she was saying 'don't come down, don't come down here'," Ms Bell told the court.
"When I got closer … I heard her say she had found a body.
"She said she went into the bushes to pick some arum lilies and she saw a foot."
Ms Bell said the vegetation was very dense near the road, "so if there had been something lying in amongst it you wouldn't see it from the road".
The trial before Justice Stephen Hall will resume next week.


Further comment by the NYT I CSK Investigation Team

Why did the whole of the Western Australian Media, including the West Australian Newspaper, the Sunday Times Newspaper and all the Western Australian Television Networks, and in particular Channel Nine, who produced the documentary on the claimed accurate account of the last times that Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon were seen ...before they disappeared ... conspire with the Western Australian Police Service to falsely try and convince the Western Australian Public and the world, that the last sighting of Jane Rimmer was in Bay View Terrace outside the Claremont Hotel at around 12pm, when the truth is that the last sighting of Jane Rimmer was at around 12.30 am ....hitchhiking down Stirling Highway towards the City of Perth?

“Ciara Glennon was not talking to anyone and no car stoped”.... Frankie_One of the Burger Boys who saw Ciara Glennon
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Frankie1972 said: ↑ I know why the driver did not come forward. Because it did not happen like that. CG was not talking to anyone and no car stop
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Frankie1972 said: ↑Well if you go back and read the thread you will see what I said about that.

Jane Rimmer appears to have been last seen by four Uni Students at around 12.30 am hitchhiking along Stirling Highway towards the City of Perth .... It is clear that the Western Australian Police and Director of Prosecutions are not in the least interested in hearing the information and evidence as to who was involved in the Claremont Serial Abductions and  Killings provided by Sarah Anne McMahon before she disappeared in the year 2000, (the Coroner indicated he thought  Sarah Anne McMahon was murdered) ... with such evidence helping to show others that also drove the same model car and the one Bradley Robert Edwards drove 

​http://www.nyt.bz/ClaremontSerialKillings2.html and http://www.nyt.bz/ClaremontSerialKillings.html

"...The Western Australian Police Commissioner Dr Karl Joseph O'Callaghan and his Western Australian Police Service and the Task Force set up to investigate the Claremont Serial Killings, and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia  have constantly .... for the last 18 years have not been interested in viewing the Explosive NYT.bz Investigation that would help the Western Australian Police Service and the Macro Task Force fully solve the Claremont Serial Killings Case ..... One of the reasons why the Western Australian Police Commissioner Dr Karl Joseph O'Callaghan and his Western Australian Police Service and the Macro Task Force have not interested any real information and investigation into the Claremont Serial Killings .... is because the truth of who was involved in the Claremont Serial Killings and why they were involved in the Claremont Serial Killings and other rapes, attempted rapes, abductions, attempted abductions, murder, attempted murder, billion of illegal drugs sold in Western Australia, Armed robberies hits etc ...would hit too close to home and a bit to close to powerful people that are protected and are effectively above the law in Western Australia  ... and have the Green Light given  by the Western Australian Police Service to be able to commit or be involved in  any crime they want without fear of investigation and/or arrest...if they allowed such evidence and information to be publicly aired, it would open up a Pandora;s Box and a Can of Worms that would cause serious world wide discredit to the  Western Australian Police Service, the Macro Task Force set up to investigate the Claremont Serial Killings,  the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia. and the Western Australian Government... it seems the main purpose of the arrest and $Aust 100 million plus prosecution of Bradley Robert Edwards has been to have the general public believe that the self confessed rapist has been solely responsible for all the unsolved sexual offences, abductions and murders in the mid 1980's up to arrest of Bradley Robert Edwards ......  "... ... NYT CSK Investigation Team .....Please also read the Full Stories Below

Jane Rimmer's Guess watch. She was last seen wearing it on the night of her abduction in June 1996.

Why we didn't catch the Claremont killer
Reporter: Steve Pennells | Producers: Lisa Ryan, Debi Marshall
Sunday Night•31 May 2015

https://au.news.yahoo.com/why-we-didnt-catch-the-claremont-killer-28288144.html
The former head of the Western Australian Police task-force responsible for catching the notorious Claremont killer has spoken out about the investigation that never hit its mark.
It’s haunted investigators for nearly two decades. Australia’s biggest and most expensive police investigation into the Claremont murders has never been solved.
Paul Ferguson, the former head of the taskforce charged with finding the serial killer, has spoken out to try and generate new leads.
"I gave up two years of my life working on the Macro task-force. I know that the offender thinks at this stage that he is/she is/they are smart and they've got away with it," Ferguson told Sunday Night.
"That's why I'm talking to you because WA Police have chosen not to be part of this program. And, yeah, I'm fully aware of that."
After he was removed as head of Macro task-force in 1997 David Caporn was appointed but also had no luck finding the killer.
But the former head of WA’s prostitution task-force, Con Bayens, told Sunday Night that Macro’s secrecy and obsessive focus on one suspect derailed the investigation behind the scenes.
All victims of Perth's notorious Claremont serial killer, 27-year-old Ciara Glennon, 23-year-old Jane Rimmer, and 18-year-old Sarah Spiers were intelligent women who were abducted during a night out in Claremont, WA.
Their fateful nights unfolded with chilling similarity. They began with drinks at beachside Cottesloe and moved on to neighbouring Claremont. Both decided late in the evening to leave the pack and go it alone.
Ciara and Jane's bodies were both found dumped in bushland.
"The fact that the body was just dumped could mean a number of things. First and foremost it means he's arrogant... He wanted the body found," Paul Ferguson said.
The women were all similar in appearance and age and particular focus was given to taxi drivers in the hunt for the killer.
Bayens said he picked up a man in Highgate, an area notorious for prostitution, with all the hallmarks of a killer, but he was ignored by those in charge.
He stopped a man he believed to be loitering in an unmarked police car.
"The boot was lined in blue plastic. There was wire ties, a pair of pliers, some masking tape," Bayens said.
"We had one girl murdered, we had another one missing. He could have been the killer."
But Bayens said he was told by the head of the taskforce that they already had their man.
He never saw a response to the brief he prepared on the man in Highgate, despite his striking similarities to the killer profile.
"What happened in Highgate that night, what I saw that night, has haunted me for a lot of years," Bayens said.
The man Macro set its sights on was a public servant named Lance Williams.
Williams always maintained his innocence and after years of heavy scrutiny, including round-the-clock surveillance, he was simply dropped as a suspect without explanation.
As our program was going to air, WA police responded to our queries about the brief prepared by Bayens.
Read the full correspondence here.
They claim Bayens did receive a response, which he adamantly denies.
"This seems to me that the Macro task-force was a situation where police have really mucked up and now we have got a cover up, and that's the saddest part. That they never said 'we made a mistake'."
Paul Ferguson says he wants to renew the search for the killer in the hope of finding justice and peace, particularly for Sarah's family.
Unlike the other women, Sarah Spiers was never found. Her father has spent nearly 20 years following every lead he can to locate her body.

"Most parents expect their children to go to their funeral," Ferguson said.
"When you raise a child and that person is in their late teens, early 20s, and they're murdered, the family have to... come to the realisation that they've lost their child, they've outlived their child and the trauma that the child went to prior to the death."
If you can help investigators, call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Cop spills all on WA police “Welcome To Hell …. !"
“..it is easier to be shot by a Western Australian Police Officer than be eaten by a shark in Perth, Western Australia …”

Anthony DeCeglie, The Sunday Times - December 8, 2012

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/cop-spills-all-on-wa-police/news-story/c8d2ce9b4d208a21086da6f60119ffa7

Officer A states in his book The Crime Factory detailing his experiences as a Police Officer in Western Australia, after been invited from the London Police Force ( MET) to work in Western Australia with his wife who is also a police officer, in the chapter “Welcome to Hell”.. that is easy to be shot by a Western Australian Police Officer than eaten by a shark..” SEXIST, racist and trigger happy.
A former police officer has written a graphic account of life as a Perth cop in a new book that claims to blow the whistle on what really goes on behind the blue line.
The book, written under the pseudonym "Officer A" and called The Crime Factory, details several years the author spent in the WA Police after coming over in 2006 as part of a recruitment drive to lure British cops.
The book contains accusations of racism, brutality, bullying and binge drinking.
"Policing in Western Oz was like policing in the 1970s in the UK, but more violent, racist and sexist, and the cops had free use of guns and Tasers," it said.
Officer A, who worked in WA until early 2008, said local cops were trigger happy especially when it came to Tasers.

The chapter about his arrival in Perth is called: "Welcome to Hell".
"I'd quickly learnt that in Australia you were much more likely to be shot dead by a cop than get eaten by a shark," he said.
"A significant minority of officers tasered anybody that pissed them off, which was usually anyone with a different skin colour.
"I saw two officers attack a pair of harmless sailors. They were a bit drunk but were completely inoffensive."
He also recounts how his then wife who also came over to work in the force was sent out to execute an arrest warrant on a potentially violent criminal just moments after she told her manager she was pregnant.
The book alleges senior police made it clear the recruits were just a "doctor's quick fix". "The local cops hated us," the author says.
The book traces Officer A's career in WA, starting out at a suburban police station before winning a transfer to a secretive intelligence division as a "covert officer" rounding up informants to take out the "baddest guys in the country". He resigned in 2008 following an incident at a Perth pub, where he says a drunken officer verbally abused him,
then returned to Britain to work for the Surrey police force.
A WA Police spokesman said: "The claims in the book about policing in WA are hard to fathom and probably say more about the author than they do about WA Police.
"There is nothing in the book that gives WA Police any concern."b He said that between 2006 and 2009, 657 overseas officers were recruited in a "highly successful international recruitment campaign". Just over a quarter of those recruits have since quit. Last night, The Sunday Times spoke with the author of The Crime Factory who admitted to having a nervous breakdown after his return to the UK which he claims insiders were trying to use to discredit his book. The breakdown led to a 2010 incident in which he made a drunken phone call from his police station to a colleague claiming that he was going to shoot himself. It caused the station to be stormed by police. He was fined 500 pounds, but the court heard that during his police career he had won several awards.  "I had a breakdown," he said. "It happens. Prior to that I had an excellent service record." He said the book had been a steady seller.



"Litany of Lies" presented to the media by WA Police Commissioner Mr O'Callaghan
Mr Quigley argued a flow chart Mr O'Callaghan presented to the media at a press conference in October last year, after the Tasering off Mr Spratt came to light, was a "litany of lies"…Mr John Quigley The Now Attorney General for Western Australia argued in Parliament


 Western Australian Court of Appeal quashes Spratt conviction
 Aja Styles - FEBRUARY 24 2011


A wrongful conviction against Taser victim Kevin Spratt has been quashed by the Court of Appeal after horrifying footage showing nine police brutalising the 41-year-old Aboriginal man was made public.Internal CCTV footage from inside the East Perth lock-up showed Mr Spratt being Tasered 14 times while on the floor screaming in agony was broadcast worldwide last year, after being released by the Corruption and Crime Commission. Mr Spratt had been arrested in August 2008 after an incident in King William Street in Bayswater. But he was further charged with obstructing officers in the Watch House, which related to the Tasering incident. Mr Spratt served two months jail for the offence, which ran concurrently with other jail terms imposed for three other charges.

Mr Spratt brought his conviction for obstructing police before the Court of Appeal today. The action was against his arresting officer, Detective Constable Brett Fowler, who wrote up the report in which it stated that Mr Spratt "again became violent and aggressive towards police who were attempting to restrain him by kicking and flailing his arms towards police as they approached". Internal CCTV footage of the Watch House showed Mr Spratt simply sitting on a chair grabbing hold of the seat with his arms and hands as the Taser barbs were deployed. Justice Stephen Hall found that Mr Spratt had been denied justice by not being able to view the footage prior to pleading guilty to the charge in the Perth Magistrates Court and his appeal was granted. Outside court Mr Spratt's lawyer Steven Penglis said they were seeking financial compensation for what occurred in the Watch House.

"The system failed Kevin in this regard in two ways; first, as you've heard, we had a charge laid by a police officer who wasn't there at the time of the alleged offence and didn't take steps to verify that it was true by looking at the CCTV footage and secondly, when that police officer realised that it was wrong he didn't take any steps to ensure that it came to the attention of Kevin, the prosecuting sergeant or the court," he said.

Mr Penglis has written to the Police Commissioner about these concerns. Mr Spratt said he was pleased with the outcome.

"It has brought a lot of bad memories back but I just want to move on with life," he said. Earlier today, Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan conceded claims about Kevin Spratt resisting police in the Perth Watch House appeared to be wrong.

Mr O'Callaghan rejected shadow attorney-general John Quigley's assertions in Parliament last week that he lied the the public in a "flow-chart" of the events displayed to the media to explain the lead-up to that night, saying at the time he believed the statement of material facts to be correct. "There is no deliberate intent to mislead anybody at all, it is not my style, I have never done it nor will do it," he told 6PR Radio. The flow chart was designed to help media understand the chain of events when reporting and was only meant as "an aid", Mr O'Callaghan said. He did however concede he was "not (happy) now" after it was revealed that the charges of obstructing officers came after the Tasers were deployed. But he said he has been unable to interview the officers involved because the CCC had taken over the inquiry since November 15 last year and it was now up to the corruption watchdog to release their findings.

New footage shows Kevin Spratt screaming in agony
APRIL 11 2011 Aja Styles

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/new-footage-shows-kevin-spratt-screaming-in-agony-20110411-1daom.html

Aboriginal man Kevin Spratt was handled roughly by police while suffering from a dislocated shoulder at a prison infirmary after repeatedly being Tasered at a Perth watch house in 2008, the Corruption and Crime Commission heard.
New video footage was released today as the CCC re-commenced its hearings investigating the misconduct of police and Department of Corrective Services officers over the handling of Mr Spratt while in custody.


 Kevin Spratt and his partner Tayunna Schatkowski appear at the Corruption and Crime Commission hearing. 

A damning video recording of Mr Spratt squirming in agony on the floor of the East Perth watch house after being Tasered 14 times by nine police officers on August 30, 2008, was released by the CCC last year.
The CCC then called hearings into the matter in December last year, when it was further revealed on video footage that Mr Spratt was again Tasered, seven days later on September 6, 2008, by Department of Corrective Service's Emergency Support Group, who were all dressed in riot gear.
Today Senior Counsel assisting the commission, Peter Quinlan, revealed new footage showing Mr Spratt directly after that Tasering on September 6, 2008, being escorted to the Casuarina Prison infirmary from a prison van.
Mr Quinlan said Mr Spratt was taken a day later in shackles to Royal Perth Hospital where he was diagnosed with several injuries. "X-rays taken at the hospital demonstrated that Mr Spratt was suffering from at least one, and possibly other, fractures of the ribs, a collapse of his lung and a dislocated shoulder...," Mr Quinlan said.
"How those injuries were sustained is yet to be determined. "The videotape I'm about to play indicates, at the very least, that some of those injuries - and I refer in particular to the injury to Mr Spratt's arm – were suspected at an early stage."
During the recording Mr Spratt can be constantly heard screaming as he is put into restraints on the infirmary bed saying "arm, arm, arm... look at me arm". When queried by a nurse about his arm, an officer told her: "He's been moving his arms all the way here."
He goes on to say Mr Spratt had been biting his own arm, which Mr Spratt denied. "Sister girl you got to help me," he cried to the nurse and continued to scream about his arm and foot.
"Why you beat me for?" The nurse told him: "You need to be really still, otherwise everyone is going to jump on you." She told him to "shush" and asks if he has ever broken his arm before, which he denied.
He asked for water and she agreed, telling him she has to go somewhere first, and after some mumbling she told him: "They're not going to kill you." The nurse spoke on the phone to a doctor about possible injuries to his arm and shoulder, saying "he's been struggling".

"I think otherwise he's well, the arm is what we need to eliminate," she said.

Sergeant Nicholas Rowe, who acted as a commanding officer at the watch house in the lead up to Mr Spratt being moved to Casuarina, told the commission that Mr Spratt was not complaining of any injuries to his shoulder or arm while in the holding cell. "When he was put into the cell we actually had no further physical contact with him. So no it was only the blood, which he did have some blood on him from his lip or nose, that was it, that was the only injury observed," he said. When asked if there were any complaints about suffering significant pain to his body, he replied: "No. Not to my knowledge.

"I didn't hear it, it wasn't recorded and given his behaviour on the day both from my recollection and reading from the running sheet, he was punching the wall, being aggressive, yelling and screaming for some considerable time. "So it sort of gave us some idea that he was fighting fit and still ready to fight as it were, hence the action that we took."

The prison officer responsible for confronting and Tasering Mr Spratt and later escorting him to Casuarina prison on September 6, whose name has been suppressed, claimed Mr Spratt had been able to use his arms on the journey.
"He was able to, in the vehicle, rip a pair of boxer shorts off, other than using his arms I don't know any other way you'd ripped them off. And he was also doing other things in the back of the van, you've obviously got have your arms to use," he said.
He agreed Mr Spratt was screaming out in pain when medical staff tried touching his arms but pointed out that Mr Spratt also "complained about broken legs, which he didn't have".
The officer went further to say that he had even sat on Mr Spratt at hospital because he put up a fight about having his arm in plaster and in a brace.
The hearing will continue tomorrow.


WA Police launch fresh probe into Spratt Taser case
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/wa-police-launch-fresh-probe-into-spratt-taser-case-20110303-1bfyi.html
MARCH 3 2011
Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan has launched an inquiry into whether officers perverted the course of justice in the case of an Aboriginal man Tasered multiple times in custody.
Shadow attorney-general John Quigley and Mr O'Callaghan met in Perth today to discuss the case of Kevin Spratt, who was Tasered multiple times in the Perth Watch House in August 2008.
The Corruption and Crime Commission is investigating the case, which sparked outrage when a video of the Tasering was released publicly in October last year.
In response to the video's release, WA Police displayed a flow chart to reporters, outlining events leading up to Mr Spratt's Tasering including previous alleged clashes with police and charges against him.
But Mr Quigley told State Parliament last month that the flow chart was a "litany of lies" compiled by the WA police internal affairs unit to vilify Mr Spratt.
He also described Mr O'Callaghan as the worst police chief in the country.
Mr Quigley said the flow chart stated Mr Spratt had acted violently and obstructed police at the Watch House before being Tasered, and as a result he had been charged and convicted of obstructing police.
But the video clearly showed Mr Spratt had not acted violently, Mr Quigley said.
In the WA Supreme Court last week, Mr Spratt's conviction was quashed, with Justice Stephen Hall saying a miscarriage of justice had occurred and his guilty plea was prompted by false police allegations.
Mr Spratt had admitted the offence because he did not remember the incident.
Today Mr Quigley said Mr O'Callaghan had invited him to breakfast to discuss the case and he had shown the Commissioner documents supporting his contention that "what was in the flow chart was false".
"He was very concerned."
Mr Quigley said Mr O'Callaghan indicated he would initiate an inquiry into whether there had been a perversion of the course of justice by any officers, and internal affairs unit staff would not be involved.
He said he had agreed to a request from the Commissioner to cooperate with the inquiry.
When asked if he still thought Mr O'Callaghan was the worst police commissioner in the country, Mr Quigley admitted he had "overstretched there".
"I should have said he's gaining that reputation."
Mr Quigley said he accepted what the Commissioner told him, that he did not know what was behind the flow chart's creation.
"I'm convinced the Commissioner didn't know about it."
Mr O'Callaghan last week said he was no longer confident the flow chart was accurate because of the emergence of new information since it was released.
AAP

Top cop 'lied' to justify Spratt Tasering: MP
Fran Rimrod  FEBRUARY 17 2011

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/top-cop-lied-to-justify-spratt-tasering-mp-20110217-1axjr.html


Labor MP John Quigley has launched an extraordinary attack on Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan, accusing the state's top police officer of fabricating a "litany of lies" to justify the brutal Tasering of Aboriginal man Kevin Spratt in police custody.
The remarks emerged today in a parliamentary speech by Mr Quigley, the shadow attorney-general, who gave a brutal assessment of the WA Police force and branded Mr O'Callghan the "worst commissioner in the country".
He also took aim at Police Minister Rob Johnson, who he said did not have the courage to make Mr O'Callaghan account for the handling of the Spratt inquiry because he was a "police sycophant".
Speaking under Parliamentary privilege, he was scathing of the treatment of Mr Spratt, who was Tasered 14 times in the East Perth Watch House while surrounded by nine police officers on August 31, 2008.
Internal CCTV footage showed the officers taking turns to send electric shocks into Mr Spratt while he screamed in agony on the ground.
The damning footage, which was broadcast worldwide, has since been described as indefensible and a "gross misuse" of the weapon by the Commissioner and Premier Colin Barnett.
A Corruption and Crime Commission probe was launched into Mr Spratt's Tasering as part of an investigation into the use of Tasers in the WA Police force.
Today in Parliament, Mr Quigley argued a flow chart Mr O'Callaghan presented to the media at a press conference in October last year, after the Tasering off Mr Spratt came to light, was a "litany of lies".
The chart included details of all police interactions with Mr Spratt, including his criminal history and the four other occasions that Tasers were used on him after he kicked, bit and spat at police.
On the day of the press conference Mr O'Callaghan said: "on most occasions when Mr Spratt has come into contact with police he has been extremely aggressive and extremely violent."
In his speech today Mr Quigley refuted this statement, saying Mr O'Callaghan was selling a lie to the public about Mr Spratt being violent in the lock-up.
Mr Quigley argued the flowchart, detailing Mr Spratt's violent behaviour, was used to vilify Mr Spratt and justify the police's violent approach in the Watch House.
He challenged several items on the flowchart, which he said was presented to the media in "Delvene Delaney Sale of the Century- style" by an officer.
He said in the subsequent CCC inquiry into the Tasering the Commissioner had "his knees kicked in" by his own staff.
During a CCC hearing in December last year, a detective admitted he knew the facts used to Mr Spratt with obstructing police were false, but he did nothing to change them.
A female constable told the CCC she was shocked and disappointed at the "excessive" force used by her superiors when dealing with Mr Spratt at the Watch House.
While he conceded that Mr O'Callaghan may not be the fabricator of those supposed "lies", he called WA's top officer "the worst commissioner in the country" and claimed the WA police had "the worst reputation around the nation".
Police Minister Rob Johnson has slammed Mr Quigley's speech, accusing him of misusing parliamentary privilege and of "being a show-pony".
"I challenge John Quigley to come out of the house and repeat word for word what he said in the house today," he said. "He is doing this because he wants to be the star of a TV program that's in Perth this week, the Australian Story, and he is simply being a show-pony as he always is. "I find his actions absolutely disgraceful."

Mr O'Callaghan has been contacted for comment. -

with Katherine Fenech and Aja Styles

Court of Appeal quashes Spratt conviction
Aja Styles  FEBRUARY 24 2011

A wrongful conviction against Taser victim Kevin Spratt has been quashed by the Court of Appeal after horrifying footage showing nine police brutalising the 41-year-old Aboriginal man was made public.
Internal CCTV footage from inside the East Perth lock-up showed Mr Spratt being Tasered 14 times while on the floor screaming in agony was broadcast worldwide last year, after being released by the Corruption and Crime Commission. Mr Spratt had been arrested in August 2008 after an incident in King William Street in Bayswater. But he was further charged with obstructing officers in the Watch House, which related to the Tasering incident.
Mr Spratt served two months jail for the offence, which ran concurrently with other jail terms imposed for three other charges. Mr Spratt brought his conviction for obstructing police before the Court of Appeal today.
The action was against his arresting officer, Detective Constable Brett Fowler, who wrote up the report in which it stated that Mr Spratt "again became violent and aggressive towards police who were attempting to restrain him by kicking and flailing his arms towards police as they approached". Internal CCTV footage of the Watch House showed Mr Spratt simply sitting on a chair grabbing hold of the seat with his arms and hands as the Taser barbs were deployed.
Justice Stephen Hall found that Mr Spratt had been denied justice by not being able to view the footage prior to pleading guilty to the charge in the Perth Magistrates Court and his appeal was granted.
Outside court Mr Spratt's lawyer Steven Penglis said they were seeking financial compensation for what occurred in the Watch House.
"The system failed Kevin in this regard in two ways; first, as you've heard, we had a charge laid by a police officer who wasn't there at the time of the alleged offence and didn't take steps to verify that it was true by looking at the CCTV footage and secondly, when that police officer realised that it was wrong he didn't take any steps to ensure that it came to the attention of Kevin, the prosecuting sergeant or the court," he said.
Mr Penglis has written to the Police Commissioner about these concerns. Mr Spratt said he was pleased with the outcome. "It has brought a lot of bad memories back but I just want to move on with life," he said.
Earlier today, Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan conceded claims about Kevin Spratt resisting police in the Perth Watch House appeared to be wrong. Mr O'Callaghan rejected shadow attorney-general John Quigley's assertions in Parliament last week that he lied the the public in a "flow-chart" of the events displayed to the media to explain the lead-up to that night, saying at the time he believed the statement of material facts to be correct.
"There is no deliberate intent to mislead anybody at all, it is not my style, I have never done it nor will do it," he told 6PR Radio.
The flow chart was designed to help media understand the chain of events when reporting and was only meant as "an aid", Mr O'Callaghan said. He did however concede he was "not (happy) now" after it was revealed that the charges of obstructing officers came after the Tasers were deployed. But he said he has been unable to interview the officers involved because the CCC had taken over the inquiry since November 15 last year and it was now up to the corruption watchdog to release their findings.

Further Comment by NYT CSK Investigation Team

The Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia are still no interested knowing the contents of the statement provided by Sarah Anne McMahon made before she disappearedin the year 2000, where she named well connected and powerful people as being involved in the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders a,d why she had such knowledge....

Part of such information provided by  Sarah Anne McMahon would indicate that there were other people that would have driven  a Holden Commodore VS Series 1 vehicle - "the same make and model of car Mr Edwards drove at the time". 


 Claremont killer trial LIVE: Bradley Edwards faces woman he attacked in 1988 and Jane Rimmer's brother
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-killer-trial-live-bradley-edwards-trial-focusing-on-his-alleged-first-murder-victim-sarah-spiers-20191206-p53hju.html
By Heather McNeill and Hannah Barry
December 6, 2019 

10.44am on Dec 6, 2019
Jane Rimmer's Guess watch. She was last seen wearing it on the night of her abduction in June 1996.

Jane Rimmer's brother called to the stand
The next witness is Adam Rimmer, the brother of Jane Rimmer. 

The 50-year-old has short grey hair and is wearing a blue, buttoned-up shirt. 
Ms Barbagallo: How many children in your family? 
Mr Rimmer: At the time? Three.
Mr Rimmer said he was three years older than Jane, who was 23 years old when she disappeared on June 9, 1996. 
He also has another sister, Lee Rimmer, who is the oldest of the three. 
Ms Barbagallo has asked if he had a close relationship with Jane, he has replied, yes.
He said they lived together before he married and she then moved out to a unit on her own. 
He is also agreeing Jane had a close relationship with her parents and visited them most weekends. 
"She liked freebies,' he joked.
He said Jane would socialise at the lacrosse club, Shenton Park Hotel, or in Claremont and Cottesloe. 
He said the last time he spoke to her was the Saturday she went missing.
"I spoke with her [on the phone]," he said. 
"[She appeared] fine."
Ms Barbagallo is now asking Mr Rimmer about the jewellery she would wear. 
"I guess mainly her watch, she would wear some rings on some of her fingers but not all the time," he said. 
"I don't remember much more, it's not something a brother takes much notice of."
He has been shown a photo of Jane's watch, which was found near her bush grave, and agreed it was hers. 
He has also confirmed no one in his family drove the vehicle makes and models with fibres matching those found on Jane's body that the state alleges came from Mr Edwards' Holden Commodore. 
He is also agreeing none of his family members wore Telstra trousers - which the state claims it also recovered fibres from on Jane's body. 
Mr Yovich has asked if Mr Rimmer was aware of all the cars Jane drove in, he has said no.
He has also asked if he was aware of all the occupations of Jane's friends, he has said no. 


A photo of the Toyota Camry the state alleges Mr Edwards drove around the time of Sarah Spiers' murder. This photo was taken by the owner the day before he sold it in 1997.

11.05am on Dec 6, 2019
Photographs of Mr Edwards' Telstra-issued Toyota Camry tendered in court
A statement by Annette Dvorak, who purchased a white Toyota Camry in 1997 and sold it in 2004, is now being read into court.


She has provided photos of the vehicle - which matches the description of the vehicle Mr Edwards drove when he is alleged to have murdered Sarah Spiers.


Another statement by Mark Boorn is now being read into court.

He purchased Mr Edwards' Toyota Camry in 1996 and sold it in 1997.
He has also provided photos of the car around the time he sold it.
This car was never located by police following Mr Edwards' arrest.
Another statement of Kylie David is now being read in. Ms David owned Mr Edwards' Telstra-issued Holden Commodore station wagon between 2000 and 2004 - the vehicle he is alleged to have driven at the time he murdered Jane and Ciara.
She has confirmed there is no reason for blood to be found in the vehicle from her time owning it, and she provided her and her husband's DNA to police.
The next statement to be read in is that of Neil McGurk who owned the Holden Commodore between 2004 and 2007.
He has confirmed while owning the car it was not involved in any accidents.
He said he sold it to a friend in 2007, Dave Palmer.
Police seized the car from Mr Palmer the day of Mr Edwards' arrest in December 2016.

11.18am on Dec 6, 2019
'Police seized the vehicle in 2016': Man who owned Mr Edwards' Telstra-issued station wagon

The statement of the man who owned Mr Edwards' 1996 Telstra-issued Holden Commodore is now being read in. 

David Palmer, 49, said he paid "$2,500 or $3,000" for the vehicle in 2007. 
"In the time I have had the vehicle I have not replaced any of the interior lining," he said. 
"I put car seat covers on the front seats.
"At 8.45am, 22 December 2016, detectives from the WA Police attended my home address and executed a search warrant to seize this vehicle."
The state alleges fibres recovered from the interior of the vehicle match those found on the bodies of Jane and Ciara. 

Court is now taking a morning tea break. 

11.46am on Dec 6, 2019
'Mr Edwards worked a 14-hour day in the hours after Sarah was last seen': Telstra technician
The next witness to be called is John Travis. 
The 66-year-old has light grey hair and is wearing glasses and a black, buttoned-up shirt. 
He worked at Telstra between 1982 and 2013. 
Mr Edwards is taking notes during Mr Travis' evidence. 
Mr Travis said he met Mr Edwards in the course of his work.
"There'd be times when I'd need outside assistance and I'd ask for team leaders to source some volunteers to assist me and it was during those occasions that Brad would come work with me," he said. 
He is now talking about a shift he managed on Saturday, January 27, 1996 at Dumas House. 
Mr Edwards attended this shift at 8am - six hours after Sarah was last seen in Claremont. 
He said Murray Cook - Mr Edwards' friend and colleague who gave evidence last week - was rostered down to start at 10am.
This contradicts Mr Cook's wife's evidence that she recalled Mr Edwards and Mr Cook leaving for work together that morning around 7.20am. 
Mr Travis' diary notations from the week said Mr Edwards worked a near-14-hour day, finishing at 9.45pm.
He is now talking about the pager number he had written down at the time for Mr Edwards, which was 137. 
Ms Barbagallo is now asking Mr Travis about which vehicle Mr Edwards was driving.
He said he could not specifically say but workers in Mr Edwards' division at that time usually drove station wagons for height clearance reasons. 
He is now talking about when a work vehicle was being serviced, there was a pool vehicle fleet available which employees could sign in and out through a fleet manager. 
Mr Yovich is now cross-examining Mr Travis. 
Mr Travis said the pool vehicle keys were kept in a key box and from his memory, the box was open when he would see it, but may have been locked at the end of the day.
He is being asked now if he has an individual memory for the day he worked with Mr Edwards at Dumas House, he has said no and that he is relying on his diary entries, which he wrote down to lodge employee timesheets, which was his responsibility. 
Mr Travis has agreed Mr Cook would have left at 6.45pm at the latest that day, which contradicts the previous evidence that Mr Cook and Mr Edwards drove into work together.



12.37pm on Dec 6, 2019
Jane Rimmer's mother's statement being read to court

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Prosecutor Tara Payne is now reading in the witness statement of Jenny Rimmer, Jane's mother - taken on June 14, 1996 - around 5 days after she disappeared.
She was an exam supervisor at Edith Cowan University and a casual employee at Shenton Park Hotel in 1996. 
"Jane has been living by herself ... for about six months," she said. 
"Jane and I have a very good relationship, she tells me a lot and we are good friends. She is a little bit reserved though, she doesn't tell me everything."
She said Jane called into her house a number of times the day she vanished, once for lunch and another time to do some laundry. 
Jane also visited her mother at Shenton Park Hotel that afternoon and had a couple of drinks before leaving at about 7.40pm.
"I haven't seen or heard from her since then even though I expected to see her in the day on Sunday," she said. 
"She seemed happy [when she left].
"On the Sunday afternoon I began to get concerned."
Ms Rimmer said she went to Jane's Wembley unit to find her and noticed her car in its usual spot.
"Her bed was made and I couldn't find the clothes she was wearing when I last saw her on Saturday," she said.
"I then called police."


12.39pm on Dec 6, 2019
Video Link for Trevor and Jenny Rimmer appeal for help to find their daughter Jane, shortly after her disappearance.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-killer-trial-live-bradley-edwards-trial-focusing-on-his-alleged-first-murder-victim-sarah-spiers-20191206-p53hju.html

Trevor and Jenny Rimmer appeal for help to find their daughter Jane, shortly after her disappearance.
'I became concerned when she didn't show up for lunch': Jane's father
Ms Payne is now reading into evidence Trevor Rimmer's statement. He is Jane's father and died in 2008. 
In his statement he also talks of Jane arriving to do washing in the morning, before going to get her hair done. 
He said he arrived home from work around 2pm and Jane's car wouldn't start so he fixed it. 
He then later collected Jane from her unit and dropped her at The Shenton Park Hotel at about 7.15pm.
"During that journey we talked, but not about anything in particular, she seemed happy," he said of their last conversation. 
"Sunday morning I got up late and prepared lunch ... I was expecting Jane to come to lunch but she didn't arrive, I started to become concerned.
"When Jennifer got home [from Jane's unit and hadn't found her], we rang police and reported her missing."


12.46pm on Dec 6, 2019
Jane's hairdresser called to the stand

The Shenton Park hairdresser who saw Jane on the day she disappeared has now taken the stand. 
Clare McGuirk, 46, has long, blonde hair and is wearing a black blouse. 
She said Jane had a booking at the salon on June 8, 1996 at 10am.
"From my statement she was a basic hair cut, she wanted about an inch off the bottom. 
"She had long, blonde hair, sort of shoulder length."
She said she would have washed Jane's hair, although she does not recall. 
Mr Yovich is asking about the gowns customers wore. Ms McGuirk has said they were 'nylon' or 'shiny' but could not say what they were made from. 
Jane having her hair washed and blow-dried just before she went missing is relevant to the state's case as they allege fibres found in her hair when he body was located link her murder to Mr Edwards' Telstra-issued Holden Commodore and his Telstra trousers. 
The witness has been excused. 

12.59pm on Dec 6, 2019
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Jane Rimmer was 23 years old when she disappeared.

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/claremont-killer-trial-live-bradley-edwards-trial-focusing-on-his-alleged-first-murder-victim-sarah-spiers-20191206-p53hju.html
Jane's taxi driver giving evidence
The next witness is David Kluwen, who was the taxi driver who collected Jane earlier in the day when she disappeared. 
The 54-year-old has short, grey hair and is wearing a black, buttoned-up shirt. 
He said he did not own the taxi he was driving that day.
"From my recollection I think it was a station wagon and it would have been white ... it would have been a Ford Falcon station wagon," he said. 
He said he picked up Jane near the Karrakatta cemetery from a phone box.
"She had blonde hair, she was of medium build I would imagine, wearing a jacket - it was a winter's night - blue jeans,' he said. 
"She was of a friendly disposition, she was happy, she was confident.
"She was sober. 
"I did take her to the Ocean Beach Hotel in Cottesloe .. [the fare was] roughly around $12 at the time .. and would have taken around about 10 minutes."
Mr Yovich has not cross-examined this witness. 

Proceedings have wrapped up for today
Justice Stephen Hall
1.07pm on Dec 6, 2019

The prosecution has finished calling its witnesses for the day. 
There is now some legal argument underway to do with an application about a witness who will at some stage in the trial give evidence about Telstra fleet vehicles. 
Justice Stephen Hall is now considering media requests for some of today's exhibits to be made public.
He has agreed to release photos of the kimono from Mr Edwards' Huntingdale 1988 attack, Jane's watch found near her bush grave and Mr Edwards' 1996 Toyota Camry. 
The images will be posted to this blog when they are released. 

Court will resume at 10am on Monday. 
For a full catalogue of WAtoday's coverage of the Claremont serial killer trial, 
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Proceedings have wrapped up for today
2.19pm on Dec 6, 2019
Judge releases kimono, Jane Rimmer's watch and Toyota Camry photos

A photo taken of the Toyota Camry the state alleges Mr Edwards used around the same time of the Claremont murders. This photo was taken by the owner the day before he sold it in 1997.
A second photo taken of the Toyota Camry the state alleges Mr Edwards used around the same time of the Claremont murders. This photo was taken by the owner the day before he sold it in 1997.
The front of the kimono seized from the Huntingdale house in 1988 after Mr Edwards attacked a young woman at the property.
The back of a kimono seized from the Huntingdale house in 1988 after Mr Edwards attacked a young woman at the property.
Jane Rimmer's Guess watch. She was last seen wearing it on the night of her abduction in June 1996.

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